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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:26 PM
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Israel closes case on US man wounded in protest
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"The Israeli Justice Ministry says no indictments will be handed down in the case of an American activist who was seriously injured in a violent West Bank demonstration.

Tristan Anderson of Oakland, California, was struck in the head by a tear gas canister during a protest in the West Bank village of Nilin last March. Palestinians were throwing rocks, and Israeli forces fired tear gas and rubber-coated bullets.

Justice Ministry spokesman Ron Roman said Sunday that a police investigation showed there was no criminal intent in harming the 38-year-old Anderson, who was left comatose. Hospital representatives would not comment on his condition Sunday.

Human rights activists complain that few cases against Israeli security forces are prosecuted."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100131/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_i...
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:20 AM
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1. Couldn't see that one coming n/t
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:56 AM
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2. What? Obviously Israel is covering up!
It was a "hit!" Everyone knows this!

:sarcasm:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:48 AM
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3. There's a fairly good chance the police did do a bit of a cover up on this one...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:49 AM
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4. Sounds like speculation.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:50 AM
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5. In this case it sure is, and it's well founded... n/t
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:53 AM
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6. Of course it is, it fits your narrative.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:55 AM
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7. It's well founded because such things have happened before...
I don't have a 'narrative', btw...

Here's a report that contains information about investigations by the police. And there's plenty more to read once you've finished with that one...

http://www.crikey.com.au/Media/docs/080711-Yesh-Din-rep...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:58 AM
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8. So, you have enough to speculate and not wait for more information?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:15 AM
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9. I'm making a very educated guess based on past history...
Did you read the report I supplied a link to?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:21 AM
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10. Did you read the post where I said this was speculation?
So, it is OK when you speculate, but not others?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:24 AM
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11. Did you read the report I posted a link to?
A simple yes or no answer will suffice. I'm not the slightest bit interested in doing anything else but discussing the OP...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:24 AM
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12. Are you interested in anything other than speculation?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:29 AM
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13. Well, I'm interested in knowing whether you read the report I linked to...
..but you don't seem to want to say whether you've read it or not. So unless you show some interest in discussing the OP and the report I posted a link to where there's a history of that sort of stuff, I'll leave you to yr own devices...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:37 AM
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double post
Edited on Mon Feb-01-10 05:37 AM by Behind the Aegis
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:37 AM
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14. So, it is OK when you speculate, but not others?
I am interested in that simple answer. Therefore, I can't see the rationale in continuing this discussion because you want to discuss things on your terms and not respect the concerns of others.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:39 AM
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15. Huh? It's no more okay for me than it is for you...
Right. Now we've got that out of the way, are you going to say whether you've read the report or not and if you have what you think of it?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:43 AM
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16. Then there is the answer.
I don't think there's enough information available, and rather than speculate, it's wiser to wait until more information becomes available... :P
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:46 AM
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17. I asked you if you read the report. Yes or no is all that's required...
Did you read it or not?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:50 AM
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18. It doesn't matter. Your response is nothing more than speculation.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:59 AM
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19. My response is I want to know whether or not you read the report I linked to..
Edited on Mon Feb-01-10 06:00 AM by Violet_Crumble
Why do you constantly refuse to answer the question? You demanded I answer a question you asked before you'd answer my question, and now you've refused to.
Therefore, I can't see the rationale in continuing this discussion because you want to discuss things on your terms and not respect the concerns of others.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 06:01 AM
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20. Speculation.
Still not enough information.

But, I did read the pdf.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 06:13 AM
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21. I don't get why it took you so many posts to finally answer the question...
There's a lot of other stuff out there and articles that have been posted in this forum about cover-ups in investigations carried out by the Israeli police. Are you interested in reading any of it?

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:10 PM
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22. Attorney Sfard: Israeli Police Investigation of Shooting of Tristan Anderson "Gravely Negligent"
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"Yesterdays announcement by the Israeli Ministry of Justice not to indict anyone in the March 2009 shooting and critically injuring of American activist Tristan Anderson at a non-violent demonstration in the West Bank village of Niilin was based on a gravely negligent investigation by the Israeli police, says Israeli attorney Michel Sfard, who represents Tristan and his family.

"We were notified two weeks ago that Israel decided to close this case, and our subsequent study of the investigation file led us to call this press conference, noted Sfard, who met with local and international journalists in Jerusalem at the office of the Alternative Information Center (AIC).

"The investigation of the Judea and Samaria District Police into the shooting of Tristan Anderson was gravely negligent, stated Sfard. He noted that the police investigation team did not even interview the officers located in the center of Niilin, one of three companies of border police operating in the village that day and the ones almost certain to be directly involved in shooting Anderson, according to the ballistic evidence. I am embarrassed to say that the investigation team did not even go to Niilin, the scene of the shooting, added Sfard. If a Jewish man had been shot and wounded, there is no doubt that the entire village would be under curfew and Israel would do everything possible to investigate.

Seven Palestinian and international eyewitnesses to Israels shooting of Tristan conclusively demonstrated that Tristan was neither masked nor throwing rocks, as the Israeli police claim. Attorney Sfard and Israeli activist Jonathan Pollack, a long-time friend of Tristan, showed photographs from the village, illustrating the impossibility of Israels description of the shooting.

Sfard will now file an administrative appeal with the Israeli Attorney General, demanding that the investigation be reopened. There is little chance that the Attorney General will not accept this appeal, at least in order to interrogate the border police officers from the central command, believes Sfard."

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