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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 06:45 PM
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Palestinian activists urge Hamas to probe own Gaza war crimes
Eleven Palestinian human rights organizations have called on the Palestinian Authority and the Hamas government in Gaza to endorse the Goldstone report by investigating Palestinian violations of international law allegedly committed during operation Cast Lead.

Acts listed by the report include Palestinian attacks on civilians in Israel and instances of internal repression, such as summary executions in the Gaza Strip and arrests and torture in the West Bank.

The calls were made in identical letters sent to Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh. The organizations asked the two leaders to launch investigations before the February 5 deadline by which the UN Secretary-General is to report to the General Assembly on compliance by Israel and the Palestinians with the assembly's earlier resolution.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143330.html
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:18 PM
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1. why is Hamas being asked to comply with something Goldstone never mentioned in his report?
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 07:21 PM by shira
Internal repression in the form of summary executions, arrrests, and torturing Fatah during OCL wasn't mentioned once in the report, so what does investigating all that now have to do with compliance to Goldstone?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:22 PM
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2. Why not?
We want political accountability, for everyone, right?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:37 PM
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3. Indeed, Sir: 'Biter Bit' Is Always a Rum Show....
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 07:50 PM
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4. Happy New Year, Sir.
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 07:52 PM by bemildred
Let's hope it's an improvement on the last one.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 04:23 AM
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8. why didn't Goldstone report on Hamas repression of Fatah during OCL?
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 04:34 AM by shira
Goldstone's team covered for Hamas.

Hamas' actions towards "collaborators" was just one of many crimes ignored by Goldstone's team.

Further, it's beyond laughable to expect Hamas to seriously investigate and/or prosecute anyone for any actions taken during OCL, and you'd probably take their "investigation" more seriously than the Israeli government's.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:17 AM
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10. So you feel that Hamas should ignore its own war crimes?
Or what? What is your point?

I think you have gummed the Goldstone report to death already. If you don't know Mr Goldstone's reasons for what was done by now, then I conclude that you don't want to know them. And if you simply don't believe him, well there is nothing I can do about that.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 05:39 PM
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11. Hamas will ignore their own war crimes
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 05:40 PM by shira
1. Tell me, do you really think Hamas would ever seriously investigate or prosecute their own war crimes? I'm not talking a 1 in a million chance, but zero....do you have any reason to believe otherwise? It's as much a joke asking Al-Qaeda to investigate themselves as it is Hamas.

2. Why didn't Goldstone investigate Hamas' crimes against Palestinians committed under the cover of war? Or investigate the deaths of Gazans due to malfunctioning Qassams that landed within Gaza?
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=windows-...

3. Can you at least admit the Goldstone team lied about the following...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 06:23 PM
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12. The question was "Do you think they should?"
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 06:37 PM by bemildred
I was not asking you to predict what they will do, I was asking you if you disagree with the OP's view that they ought to investigate their war crimes.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:24 PM
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13. Hamas should....just as much as Al-Qaeda should investigate itself for actions the past decade
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:08 PM
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14. Good. Thank you. nt
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 01:18 AM
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7. Perhaps you should be contacting the author of the article
to let her know how wrong she is in her statements about the report, which once again I will admit I have not read.
As to the rest I believe that both sides should be held accountable for their actions

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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 04:25 AM
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9. the author may or may not be aware of what's in the report...
...the point remains Goldstone let Hamas off the hook for what they did to alleged "collaborators" under the cover of war.

I fail to see why anyone would be okay with Goldstone covering for Hamas crimes.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:34 PM
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5. That will be the day.
I wonder how hard the Hamas honchos laughed at this.
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mplo Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 12:47 AM
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6. That's progress right there.
Both Israelis and Palestians need to face up to their accountability in this bloody, decades-old conflict that has deprived both peoples of the right to live in peace, resulting in much bloodshed, and the killing and maiming of innocent people on both sides for too long, not to mention the fact that the Palestinians have been without their own independent, sovereign nation-state for sixty years. Israel bears responsibility by continuing to hold onto West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, and refusing to pull their troops and settlers out of those territories, despite the fact that most Israelis, both civilian and those serving in their military, don't approve of the occupation.
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