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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:02 PM
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Report: Al-Qaida CIA bomber was furious over Gaza war
Source: Haaretz

1-7-09

The Jordanian national that attacked a U.S. military base in Afghanistan, killing 7 CIA agents, was furious over the Israel's Gaza offensive, the London-based Arabic daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi reported on Thursday.

The report quotes the brother of Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi as saying that his brother, a physician, had even made numerous attempts to join Jordan's doctor's association as way of reaching the Gaza Strip and aiding the local population.

The attack was carried out by a Jordanian, Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, who had been recruited by the CIA as a counterterrorism intelligence source.

Al- Balawi's brother added that his brother had notified their family that he intended to travel to Turkey to meet up with his wife, but she said he never arrived.

Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1140996.html
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:04 PM
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1. "Furious" sums it up.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:17 PM
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2. And I should give a shit why?
Oh, the guy who murdered 7 agents hated Israel, so I guess that gives everyone an excuse to start bashing Israel? (not that this site needs an excuse to do that)

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:21 PM
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3. We reap what we sow
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:26 PM
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4. So the 7 CIA agents had it coming, heh? They got what they deserved?
Hey, maybe you can go and tell their widows and orphaned children that! I"m sure The Phelps can show you lots of ways of doing that.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:39 PM
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6. No individual deserves what comes because of the collective
But to think we can perpetuate and enable bad behavior and escape any consequences is naive. They paid the price for us and it is not right.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:55 PM
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8. So they paid the price for us: translation: they got what they deserved.
It's perfectly clear where your coming from.

Tell me, would you be alright with seven cops being murdered in cold blood because of all the corruption in our law enforcement?

And please spare me the "it's not right" hand wringing, save it.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:04 PM
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11. Not what they deserved. Just like the people in the twin towers didn't deserve it
We need to get out of involvement in the middle east. No funds for anyone.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:21 PM
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17. No specific people had it coming. Those who orchestrate the policy will escape
the blame if the CIA and State Dept are blamed. Many layers. Not so simple to place respnsibility. Baron-corporate-foundation-societal-banking conglomerate run it all.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:11 PM
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14. Don't you mean Israel and the U.S. Partnering with the help of Egypt. And it's still going on.
Name a country that did what Israel did and still does to the Gaza.

Name a country that won't allow rebuilding.

Name a country that won't allow shoreline use.

Name a country that collaborates every move with Israel.

You can't say one without the other when it comes to demeaning, exiling, killing Palestinians.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:20 PM
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16. So two people believed the agents got what they deserved.
And were not talking about Israel or American foreign policy, were talking about the murder of seven CIA agents.

Human beings. Real people. Try and remember that before going off on an anti-Israel/American tirade, if you can manage that.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:22 PM
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18. My answer is in my post #17.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:24 PM
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19. Hold on, I need to grab my tinfoil hat before reading that post.
More excuses for the suicide bomber who killed 7 American citizens.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:28 PM
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23. Just stay around a while longer. You will figure it out and confirm it for yourself.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:13 AM
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37. Yeah, human beings who were plotting drone attacks.
They were playing war and it got too real.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:27 PM
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41. Aren't we actually talking about the murder of Blackwater mercenaries?
I know they've been called "CIA agents," but their paychecks were coming from Blackwater.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:25 PM
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21. That is too easy....
The US. See Native American reservations. I've always wondered what the reaction would be if one of the tribes (preferably mine) lobbed a few unguided rockets into NYC.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:51 PM
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27. would you really want to see your people wiped out totally, cause i figure thats what would happen
if they started to lob rockets, i doubt any politician would be able to stand back and allow it to happen much less be ongoing...
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:11 PM
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32. Seems like we should be granted the same leniency...
as the Palestinians. Afterall, we are just trying to get back land that is rightfully ours from an oppressive regime.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 01:32 AM
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40. You're remarkably illogical and your comments hysterical.
Edited on Fri Jan-08-10 01:38 AM by TexasObserver
"We reap what we sow" is Biblical, speaking of Israel.

It's not a new or complicated concept. The sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons. Ever hear that one?

You do what the right wing talk show hosts do: you take a perfectly sane statement and try to make it into an attack on someone who died. You dump on the graves of the men who died, just as Fred Phelps does, and you do it for the same reason: to promote your own narrow, deficient point on view on something else.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:30 PM
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5. So he was a virulent anti-Semite with misplaced anger issues.
Since some seem to think what he did was warranted, because their family members are angry, we should line up seven of theirs and cut their throats.

Murder is murder, no matter who does it.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:25 PM
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20. Eye for eye hasn't worked in forty years.
Anti-semite is a poor expression to use.

Anti-policy is a good expression to use.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:26 PM
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22. You just can't stop the anti-Israel tirad long enough to acknowledge that this suicide bomber..
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 07:28 PM by mrbarber
was a cold blooded killer, can you?

Edit: And you talk about peace in your sig line. What a laugh.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:33 PM
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25. Tirade. That he was a killer is a given. Do you want all these people to bow down
in praise of Israel because of what Israel has done to Gaza and the Bank and to Lebanon and by the occupation of homes, land, earth resources of people Israel has said can live there, the building of walls and the evident proof that they want all the Palestinians out of there?

All we're saying is that the new piece of information or rumor is not a surprise.

And Israel is not going to likt that they are mentioned in relation to a bombing in Afghanistan. It's a boomerang - an unwelcome one because it shines light and makes people realize the useless, worthless, inhuman pursuit of perpetual war.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:55 PM
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29. The term is blow-back.
This is blow-back for the Gaza war.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:53 PM
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28. Eye for an eye never works, everybody just ends up blind...
I think Anti-semite is a perfectly good word.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:09 AM
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36. The Dr. might have been a semite.
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:49 PM
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43. Which means what, exactly?
Anti-semite is not the term for hating those of semitic descent. It is a term exclusively used to describe hatred of Jewish people. Always.

English is funny like that. For instance Inflammable is not the opposite of Flammable. African-American does not really refer to Americans of african descent. My ex-girlfriend was born in Israel and she's caucasian. Is she an Asian-American? No, despite the fact that she's from Asia and is now an American.

This despite the fact that someone can be of a given group yet still make racist or bigoted remarks against that group. If a black person makes disparaging remarks against other black people are his words automatically deemed not racist?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 01:36 PM
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42. Anti-policy is a good expression to use for those who speak, write, march against policies...
Edited on Fri Jan-08-10 01:42 PM by LeftishBrit
For those who blow people up in revenge, antisemite (if the victims are Jews), anti-American (if they're American), Islamophobe (if they're Muslim), or just plain murderer, is a better term.

Your justifications remind me of those who justified the war in Iraq, and/or random attacks on Muslims, because of 9-11.

However evil a policy is, it does NOT justify the killing of random people who did not set the policy.

I agree that 'eye for eye hasn't worked in forty years'. That is precisely my whole point
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:57 PM
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30. Self-delete
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 07:58 PM by JelloSka
sorry.
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:59 PM
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31. I agree. Why was he mad at Israel? Just because they murdered 1,300 of his people?
Seems like an overreaction to me. Besides, Palestinians killed 8 Israelis. Doesn't that even things out? I don't get his anger.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:03 PM
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34. A muslim mad at israel, that is a first since 47.
I mean that is pretty much the standard meme. Oh the car broke, fucking jews did it. Please, dont shoot rockets at people who will kill you more more efficient means than you have. Seems pretty basic. Was he a Palestinian?

I mean all my Catholic friends here in the US were ready to go fight in Northern Ireland, I mean its just a normal reaction.
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 01:00 AM
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39. He "was a member of a large Bedouin Palestinian clan that settled in Zarqa"
Edited on Fri Jan-08-10 01:01 AM by JelloSka
According to the article. So yes.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:48 PM
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7. All in a good cause
It's worth the lives of a handful of CIA agents, so long as America can keep bombing villages, weddings and schools. To coin a phrase, "Bring it on!"
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:57 PM
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10. What an incredibly ignorant and horrible thing to say.
Evidently the lives of 7 people don't matter because of the policies of their government?

You must be on the wrong site, try freerepublic, you'll fit in much more there.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:06 PM
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12. Don't you know there's a "war" on?
People get killed in wars. Or didn't anyone tell you? These agents are statistics, nothing more.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:18 PM
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15. Playing devil's advocate is pretty pointless..
when your on a site with like minded individuals.

You'd be hard pressed to find someone here who doesn't believe the murder of innocents, no matter there nationality, is a terrible tragedy.

Unless, of course, you think that these CIA operatives are not innocent because of their profession-which would mean you would have no qualms about police officers being murdered in the line of duty because there are crooked cops.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:56 PM
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9. Wife 'proud' of CIA bomber
ISTANBUL The Turkish wife of the Jordanian suicide bomber who killed seven CIA agents in Afghanistan expressed pride on Thursday in what he had done.

"I am proud of my husband. He carried out a great operation in this war. I hope Allah will accept his martyrdom, if he has become a martyr," Defne Bayrak told reporters in Istanbul, where she lives.

"I am not ashamed. He did this against the American occupation" of Afghanistan, she said, the Turkish news agency Anatolia reported.

Bayrak's husband, Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, blew himself up at a US military base near the Pakistani border on December 30 in the deadliest attack against the Central Intelligence Agency since 1983.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jxOq...
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:09 PM
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13. That family can't get their story straight
His brother says he did it because of the "War on Gaza", whatever that is. His widow says it was because of the American presence in Afghanistan. They apparently can't keep their righteous indignation and anger straight

:eyes:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:28 PM
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24. Amateurs, no doubt, just saying whatever comes into their heads.
Probably had nothing to do with it, were not informed. On the other hand, the CIA apparently had no clue what he was up to either. He must have been a very devious fellow.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:43 PM
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26. I'm so shocked that a Muslim suicide bomber hated Israel.
:sarcasm:

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:42 PM
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33. so it was an Inglourious Basterds situation? nt
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junior college Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:39 PM
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35. I haven't decided
whether these guys deserved it or not. They have a dangerous job was the first thing that came to my mind.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:38 AM
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38. We should disengage from occupation in the ME.
I don't think Israel's enemies have to be OUR enemies. Never have seen the necessity of that. And it wasn't so to this degree in the 1950's when France was arming Israel with Mirages etc.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:20 PM
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44. His wife clarified.
Not Gaza at all, but furious at the US over the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and over the humiliation of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib.

Brother says one thing, wife says another. He was away for months, and apparently fairly incommunicador. Like either knows. His corpse can be made to mouth all kinds of things, and not only will be but already has been.

To buy the Gaza motive you have to assume that he was anti-Semitic enough (and please, let's not wake the etymological fallacy here, okay?) to think that the Americans in Muslim lands and the Israeli IDF are effectively the same entity. Granted, enough think like this, but presumably Balawi, the dude #2 from Zarqa, would know better.

However, whatever his motive there's the motive of those who provided the rather potent explosive. For that, and even the choice of target, we can plausibly look elsewhere. CIA is behind the drone attacks in Pakistan, Pakistani intelligence has access to such an explosive and resents the CIA.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:05 AM
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45. The "word" straight from the "horses mouth"
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 11:06 AM by azurnoir
The Jordanian doctor who killed seven CIA employees in a suicide attack in Afghanistan said in video clips broadcast posthumously Saturday that all jihadists must attack U.S. targets to avenge the death of Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud.

Footage showed Humam Khalil Abu Mulal al-Balawi whom the CIA had cultivated as an asset against al-Qaida sitting with Mehsud's successor in an undisclosed location. It essentially confirmed the Pakistani Taliban's claim of responsibility for one of the worst attacks in CIA history, though a senior militant told The Associated Press that al-Qaida and Afghan insurgents played roles, too.

The development may lead the U.S. to further push Pakistan to crack down on Afghan and Pakistani Taliban militants who use its tribal regions along the Afghan border as safe havens. It also could prompt even more U.S. missile strikes in the country already on the upswing something a Pakistani intelligence official urged


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/09/cia-bomber-hum...


As an American I can say is "sorry" Israel but this time apparently it was about us not you
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:35 PM
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46. And, just as importantly,
it's no even about Arabs, per se.

It's about the "emir," and that clearly shows what it's about.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:46 PM
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47. Yeah the whole thing seemed a bit "weird" to me n/t
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