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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:42 AM
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Israel and the Darfur Refugees: Opinions generally divide down the identity line.
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 03:42 AM by Donald Ian Rankin
This is an article by Moche Feiglin, who I think is a decent tip to be a future prime minister of Israel, sadly.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx...



The believing world - in other words, most of humanity - has special expectations of the Jewish nation and its representative, the State of Israel. Almost everyone understands that the Nation of the Bible represents a holy and ethical way of life, and they are curious to see which direction we will take. That does not mean that they like us;
The Nation of the Bible represents a holy and ethical way of life.
usually they don't. All it means is that they have high expectations of us.

While most of the world understands that the Jews represent some sort of holiness, many Jews are determined not to recognize this fact. We prefer to ignore our unique status and to carry on as if it doesn't exist. A prince who rolls around in the mud with all the commoners does not elicit affection, but rather, disgust. In other words, the fact that we ignore our special role and attempt to be just like everyone else evokes anti-Semitism.

The International Court should really be in Jerusalem - certainly not in The Hague in blood-soaked Europe. But former Chief Justice Aharon Barak, the oracle of Israeli "justice", has already explained that Israel is not a Jewish state, but rather a state of all its citizens. From now on, we must understand when IDF generals are arrested in European capitals for war crimes. If we do not live by our own values, we will inevitably be forced to live by the values of others.

China's Communist regime imprisons political opponents in concentration camps and then harvests their organs for sale throughout the world. If Israel were really a Jewish state that expresses its special status, we would have boycotted the Olympics in Beijing so as not to give the regime of horrors the approval of the Jewish State. Why didn't the Left protest Israel's participation in the Olympics? Why was Manhigut Yehudit the only Jewish organization in Israel to join the protest against China's regime?

The reason is that the Olympics express universality. If Israel had boycotted the games while the West participated, it would have highlighted its uniqueness, not its universality. So in this case, Israel's knights of human rights remained silent.

Just the opposite is true for the Darfur refugees.

The percentage of Africans who crossed Israel's borders because they were in actual danger is very low. More than 90% of the refugees (more than 10,000 people) come from Sudan and Eritrea. Only 1,000 infiltrators came in from the embattled region of Darfur, and even they do not fit the definition of refugees as per international law: Israel does not share a common border with Sudan or the Darfur region; and if the refugees do not endanger themselves by trying to cross the border from Egypt to Israel, nobody in Egypt will harm them. But life in Israel is more attractive than in Egypt. In other words, this is a case of illegal immigrants, infiltrators who are having a negative affect on Israel's work force, and simultaneously creating a new and ominous social time bomb.

Opinions on the Darfur refugee-infiltrators generally divide down the identity line. A person who identifies first and foremost as a Jew understands that Israel must present its moral stand on ethical questions that arise throughout the world. As such, Israel must be involved in a solution for the Darfur refugees. The solution cannot be inside Israel's borders, because Israel is a nation-state, not a state of all its citizens. Those people who are truly in danger should receive temporary asylum in Israel in a closed compound, as the British did with the Jewish citizens of Germany who escaped to their areas of control. The long-term solution must be to settle these
The problem is caused by those who see themselves first and foremost as citizens of the world.
refugees (exclusively) in a safe place as close as possible to their original homes. The other 90% of infiltrators who came to Israel for work must be expelled from the country.

The problem is caused by those who see themselves first and foremost as citizens of the world, and Israel as a state of all its citizens. These Israelis (supported, of course, by the media) are in favor of thousands of Sudanese infiltrating our borders, because it proves that Israel is universal and liberal.

But the small minority of leftists who want Israel to become "the Singapore of the Middle East" have a problem. The Sudanese infiltrators have created a social and criminal time bomb. But never fear, the leftists also found a simple and creative solution that kept the infiltrators off the streets of their neighborhoods. The temporary permits issued them by the government allowed them to remain in Israel, but not in greater Tel Aviv, home to most of the very same bleeding-heart liberals.

So the liberals in Tel Aviv could have their cake and eat it, too. They got to have Blacks in Israel - just like in America - but to see them only on television, not on the streets of their neighborhoods. Let the people in the development towns on the periphery take care of them.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:57 AM
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1. Darfur people would rather be with Jews than fellow Muslims?
I can understand that. But what, exactly is your problem with this? A non-Jewish, a Muslim influx of refugees or illegal immigrants into a small, crowded nation of Jews surrounded by vastly larger Muslim nations, is causing a debate among the Israelis.

And you believe it shouldn't cause a debate?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:10 AM
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2. It's not about choosing to be with Jews over Muslims....
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 04:19 AM by Violet_Crumble
And it's telling that you jump to the assumption that the refugees are Muslim and run from there - Islam is not the only religion practised in Darfur, and there are Christian refugees, not that religion makes a difference to anyone but people like you...

It was a revolting article written by a revolting individual and their bitch was the same as that of far-right extremists everywhere - that refugees should be expelled from the country. I would hope that's a sentiment that you find revolting as well, but you seem more interested in going on about Jews and Muslims so you probably aren't interested in thinking about it in the terms of refugees and the RW attitude towards them...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:16 AM
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3. "thousands of Sudanese infiltrating our borders"?
And this guy's going to end up being prime minister?

Good G-d.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:20 AM
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4. He's said much worse in the past if he's the guy who ran against Nutty to lead Likud...
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 04:20 AM by Violet_Crumble
I'm pretty sure this is the same bloke...
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:45 AM
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5. I wouldn't go as far as to say "is going to".
I have a hunch he may, but that's pure guesswork on my part, and my political predicting skills are generally poor.

But, yes, he's a very nasty piece of work indeed.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:36 AM
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6. He is insane and truly fascist. No, he's not going to be PM.
He's too nutty even for the Likud et al.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:40 AM
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7. Moshe Feiglin is a supremist a "special" kind of racist
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 05:41 AM by azurnoir
one of the precious few light spots in Israels recent elections is that he was voted down

In the August 14, 2007 primaries, Feiglin nearly doubled his previous showing and received 23.4 percent of the votes to Netanyahu's 72.8 percent. Netanyahu, fearing a strong showing by Feiglin, tried to have him ousted from the party prior to the vote, and has said he will continue such efforts.<13> On December 10, 2008 Feiglin was voted to the 20th place in Likud primaries.<14> On December 11, following a petition submitted against him by Ophir Ekonis, he was demoted to the 36th spot.<15>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Feiglin

but in the current political atmosphere in Israel he may stand a good chance next time around
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