Haaretz survey: 46% of Israelis thinks gays are deviants

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1105652.html


Almost half of the Israeli population believes that homosexuality is a perversion. A Haaretz-Dialog poll, conducted under Prof. Camil Fuchs finds that 46 percent of the people surveyed answered the question "Do you see homosexuality as a perversion?" in the affirmative, while 42 percent answered that it was not a perversion. Twelve percent said they did not know.

The survey also finds that 71 percent of the ultra-Orthodox population believe homosexuality is a perversion. So do 67 percent of the religious (Orthodox), 64 percent of the Arabs, 57 percent of the Russian-speaking immigrants, 44 percent of the observant (traditional) Jews and 24 percent of the secular population.

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Yaniv Weizman, head of Tel Aviv's gay youth organization, said "It comes as no surprise to me that almost half the public thinks I'm mentally ill and should be imprisoned, treated or killed. However, I feel we've made some progress. If 26 percent of the religious and 27 percent of the Arabs say we're not perverts, you can say we've achieved something."
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good grief

[joeybee12]

1. If this isn't an endorsement for a secular society...

...nothing is.

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[Agony]

5. self delete

self delete

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[Agony]

4. Why is this in the I/P forum? It should clearly be in the GLBT forum.

This has nothing to do with Palestine.

Will a moderator please move it there.

[Lithos]

7. No

You answered your own question with your second comment.

Lithos
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[MattBaggins]

9. Probably get censored for this

but moving this was dumb. Many articles on GBLT issues are allowed in GD.

[Lithos]

10. In a perfect world, yes

But add the words Israel, Palestine to some posts and you will see the topic shift to feelings dealing with the broader I/P issue. The use of specific cliches here has already been shown to be the case.

L-

[Agony]

11. The OP has nothing to do with the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians

so I don't know how my second comment justifies your "No"... given that the guidelines contain the following as the second sentence.
"As you know, this is where you may discuss issues surrounding the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians."

Agony

[Lithos]

12. It is actually an "or", not an "and"

Israel or Palestine. For some reason mention of either seem to bring out an awful lot of cliches.

L-

[Annces]

6. Does this have to do with religion or just people's opinions

I know with Catholicism, there is much baggage about sexuality being wrong.

[Lakrosse]

13. its no different here

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108115/Americans-Evenly-Divi... So if Israel is so evil, so are we.

[Violet_Crumble]

14. Do you do anything but try to excuse racism and homophobia?

I guess the answer is yes, because if it's Arab racism and homophobia yr all over it like a rash, but there trying to excuse it with 'look over there!' arguments if it's Israeli racism and homophobia....

Oh, and no-one but you said anything about Israel being evil, so knock it off...

[Lakrosse]

15. I don't excuse them,

I simply expose double standards, as the point here was the demonize Israel as if it is unique in this respect, when it is not. Why else post a diary about this here, without doing the same for Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran?

[bemildred]

16. Please see the sub-tread beginning with post #4.

It is not here because it bashes Israel, it is here because it is about Israel.

[Violet_Crumble]

17. Yr confusing 'expose' with 'display'...

You do the latter, and not in a particularly subtle way at all. I don't know where the hell you think you are, but this isn't a diary, it's a thread, and it's the Israel/Palestine forum, and threads about Israel are no more demonising Israel than threads about the Palestinian territories are demonising Palestinians. If yr sensibilities can't cope with that, then maybe you should frequent any of the other forums at DU that aren't the Israel/Palestine forum...

[subsuelo]

18. that doesn't justify it

(in either case)