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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 01:11 PM
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Gaza: 1.5 million people trapped in despair (ICRC Report)
Six months after Israel launched its three-week military operation in Gaza on 27 December 2008, Gazans still cannot rebuild their lives. Most people struggle to make ends meet. Seriously ill patients face difficulty obtaining the treatment they need. Many children suffer from deep psychological problems. Civilians whose homes and belongings were destroyed during the conflict are unable to recover.

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"During the 22 days of the Israeli military operation, nowhere in Gaza was safe for civilians. Hospitals were overwhelmed with casualties, including small children, women and elderly people. Medical personnel showed incredible courage and determination, working around the clock to save lives in extremely difficult circumstances. Meanwhile, daily rocket attacks launched from Gaza put thousands of residents at risk in southern Israel. Medical workers in Israel provided care for the traumatized population and treated and evacuated casualties.

Many people in Gaza lost a child, a parent, another relative or a friend. Israel's military operation left thousands of homes partly or totally destroyed. Whole neighbourhoods were turned into rubble. Schools, kindergartens, hospitals and fire and ambulance stations were damaged by shelling.

This small coastal strip is cut off from the outside world. Even before the latest hostilities, drastic restrictions on the movement of people and goods imposed by the Israeli authorities, particularly since October 2007, had led to worsening poverty, rising unemployment and deteriorating public services such as health care, water and sanitation. Insufficient cooperation between the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah and the Hamas administration in Gaza had also hit the provision of essential services. As a result, the people of Gaza were already experiencing a major crisis affecting all aspects of daily life when hostilities intensified in late December.

Six months later, restrictions on imports are making it impossible for Gazans to rebuild their lives. The quantities of goods now entering Gaza fall well short of what is required to meet the population's needs. In May 2009, only 2,662 truckloads of goods entered Gaza from Israel, a decrease of almost 80 per cent compared to the 11,392 truckloads allowed in during April 2007, before Hamas took over the territory."

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108 Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:00 PM
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1. Just saw a documentary called Occupation 101
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 02:06 PM by 108
its a must watch

what the average American believes about this conflict is what is holding back peace...they would not be able to do what they are doing without our backing...

http://www.occupation101.com/
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:10 PM
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3. Please consider the other side.
What you watched was a propaganda film. The list of those interviewed for didn't contain anyone who could be considered moderate. All are from the Left or far Left. Only a few are credible. Please people. don't only watch material like this and pretend that you are getting the whole story.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:03 PM
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5. There IS no defense for the way Gazans are made to live by the Israelis
Why can't you just admit that the hardline doesn't work?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:31 PM
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22. Its not just the Israelis, the Palestinians so called friends contribute heavily to the violence
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:04 PM
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27. They are a people resisting oppression
While I wish they'd use other tactics, as a citizen of the country that subsudizes their oppressors, I have no real right to judge them. And we both know that whatever they did would never be "nonterrorist" enough in the eyes of the Israeli regime. This is illustrated by the old joke that, if Yassir Arafat had walked into the Knesset, wrapped in the Magen David, singing "Hatikvah", the prime minister(it was Shamir at the time but we can assume it would be the same whoever was prime minister)would respond with "nice try. Wrong key".

If you really want the Palestinians to change, just for once publicly call for the IDF to get its boots off of their necks.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:29 AM
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29. you can't say that for the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah
those orgs don't just "resist oppression"......they're tyranical THUGS who have always been committed to ruling others and dominating. They care nothing for Palestinians, only for the "Palestinian cause" (to destroy Israel no matter the cost to Palestinians).

You cannot claim to support Palestinians by supporting their tyrannical Jihadi oppressors.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 09:09 PM
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34. And the Occupation can NEVER result in the Palestinians getting DIFFERENT leadership
You know this. Why can't you admit it?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 09:50 PM
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35. actually it could, if Israel really wanted to finish off Hamas they could have
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 09:52 PM by shira
it would make life easier on Gazans, that's for certain.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 09:53 PM
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36. Which could only result, as you know, in a MORE violent leadership emerging in its place
There's really no moral difference between Hamas and Lehi, if you're honest with yourself.

The way to get a different leadership is for the Israeli government to stop trying to CRUSH ordinary Palestinians through force. If the hard line hasn't worked yet, that's the proof that it never can. The Israeli government itself is beginning to recognize this, through its decision to begun some very minor easing of the siege it's maintained on the West Bank.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 10:10 PM
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37. not necessarily, and Lehi wasn't half as bad as Hamas...more like the IRA
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 10:16 PM by shira
you really think Palestinians could get more moderate leadership if Israel were only nicer?

look around that region with Hezbollah, Iraq until the USA and UK destroyed it, Iran, Syria, Libya, Jordan and Egypt are pretty bad too...how do you suppose Palestinians will get more moderate leadership if none of their neighbors are able to attain it?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 11:31 PM
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38. It's not as simple as Palestinians could get different leadership if "Israel were only nicer"
But the leadership they have now can clearly be seen as a byproduct of a long-standing trend of Israeli government rigidity and brutality(going back at least to Rabin's official policy of inflicting beatings on Palestinians, and the water theft, and the land theft). You treat people harshly, they're going to look to harsh people to defend them. And it's the height of moral arrogance for anyone who defends the Occupation to make sanctimonius demands for the emergence of a "Palestinian Gandhi". The oppressor can't judge the oppressed.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-02-09 05:18 AM
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39. come on Ken....since Hitler's Mufti al-Hussayni, Palestinian leadership has been atrocious
Edited on Thu Jul-02-09 05:19 AM by shira
that goes back 90 years...WELL before occupation and has NOTHING to do with Israeli leadership. The very fact that Hezbollah exists along with repressive governments like Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran....goes to show Israel's leadership has nothing to do with Palestinian leadership being nasty.
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:48 PM
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23. Not my point at all.
First of all, I'm hardly a hard liner. Second my point wasn't about the occupation per se, but about the film that was suggested as viewing. That film purports to take a look at the entire history of the I/P dispute. I just want people to get both sides. What's wrong with that?

As far as Gaza goes, it's Hamas who are the hardliners. Can you at least admit that? So what would you have Israel do?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:00 PM
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26. I'd have the Israeli government do several things
1)End the economic blockade. If it hasn't achieved anything by now it's not going to. Look at Cuba for an example of how well tactics like that actually work;

2)Make it clear that a Palestinian state in Gaza and ALL of the West Bank is going to happen, and soon;

3)Start a reconciliation program reaching out to ordinary Palestinians. This program would include compensation for property loss(and apologies for senseless acts like the destruction of over 120,000 Palestinian olive trees)and an acknowledgment that, while Jews have a real connection to these lands, Palestinian Arabs have an equal connection, and a "truth and reconciliation" commission along South African lines, as well as an admission that Palestinian resistance was NOT based on "hatred of Jews" and that it was never fair to equate the Palestinians with the historical villains of European antisemitism;

4)An end to the policy of preventing Palestinian students from traveling overseas to get university education.

5)The development of non-invasive security measures that cease to put Palestinians through daily collective punishment for the actions of a few;

6)An end to all interference with Palestinian access to medical care. If a Palestinian is having a heart attack, it should be just as easy for that person to get emergency medical care as it is for an Israel. You can assume an elderly grandmother from Ramallah is not a terrorist, for G-d's sake.

7)An immediate guarantee that Palestinians will get their fair share of the water rights.

Those are a few things. None of them would impact Israeli security in the slightest.

As to the film, I supposed the reason it didn't include the voices from the Israeli "moderates"(although defenders of the Occupation can't really be called moderate by any normal measure)is that we've heard their whole case before. In the Western media, the mainstream Israeli case is the only one we EVER hear. And it's just robotically repeated over and over and over. Why repeat it again in the film when it's seen every bloody night on the news? And when there' nothing else we can learn FROM hearing that voice?

For the record, lastly, I wasn't calling YOU a hardliner. I was saying that current Israeli policies were rigidly hardline. It was the government, not you. Nothing personal. OK?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:36 PM
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2. Very sad indeed
Everyone is treating the Palestinians, especially in Gaza, horrendously. The Occupation needs to end. Israel cannot both keep Gaza under its jurisdiction AND treat it as an enemy-state. And Hamas are a bunch of RW thugs who need to be replaced yesterday.
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:24 PM
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4. True.
I will add that Israel also can not occupy Gaza and settle people there without annexing it and making the Palestinians citizens of Israel. However, how is it going to come about that Hamas will be replaced? What will happen to the West Bank if Israel simply withdraws now without any kind of a peace agreement or security regime in place? I can see Israel withdrawing from most of the West Bank, but they aren't going to leave Jerusalem (certainly not without some kind of agreement in place). So then what happens if Israel withdraws from everywhere but Jerusalem?
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 10:14 PM
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6.  Palestinians prefer Fatah than Hamas: poll
GAZA, June 29 (Xinhua) -- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah will crush Islamic Hamas movement if parliamentary elections are held now in the Palestinian territories, a poll found out on Monday.

The poll, conducted by Jerusalem Media and Communication Center(JMCC), said that Fatah will get 38.5 percent of the votes while Hamas will get 18.8 percent. The rest of the ballots will go to other less-influential group.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/29/content_11...
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:49 PM
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24. Will Hamas bow to the will of the people? n/t
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:48 AM
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7. Israeli warships surround Gaza-bound Spirit of Humanity ship
Gaza Maan At least five Israeli warships have surrounded a civilian ferry carrying supplies to Gaza on Tuesday morning.

According to an email message from the Free Gaza movement the Sprit of Humanity ship was intercepted by Israels navy 60 kilometers from Gaza early on Tuesday morning. The Israeli warships issued an ultimatum, urging the ship to turn back.

The ship set sail from the port of Lanarca, Cyprus on Monday after being delayed by Cypriot authorities. The activists planned to arrive in Gaza on Tuesday in what would have been their fifth successful voyage. Two other attempts to break Israels naval blockade were thwarted by the navy.

The converted ferry boat was also carrying three tons of medical aid, children's toys, and rehabilitation and reconstruction kits for twenty family homes.

The converted ferry boat was also carrying three tons of medical aid, children's toys, and rehabilitation and reconstruction kits for twenty family homes.

http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID...
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:38 AM
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8. Reuters: Israel denies making any such threat
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-40696...

Yigal Palmor, Israel's foreign ministry spokesman told Reuters no such threats had been made. He said the boat's declared destination was Port Said in Egypt and that the boat appeared to be heading in that direction.

"If it changes course and tries to go to Gaza or declares that it intends to do so, the navy can take action, although they would definitely not fire at the boat," Palmor said.
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:46 AM
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9. And about those "reconstruction kits" they're carrying
From their very own twitter account:

We left this morning, one boat, 21 passengers, 20 olive trees, one symbolic bag of cement.


Very helpful that.

Just like the last time they were caught out lying about how much aid they were bringing to those poor starving Gazans.

The Israel Defense Forces said that troops found about 150 bottles of mineral water and a few dozen kilograms of food and medicine on board, despite earlier claims that it was carrying dozens of tons of humanitarian aid.

The Tali, a cargo vessel flying the flag of the West African state of Togo, was sent by the Palestinian National Committee Against the Siege in cooperation with the U.S.-based Free Gaza Movement. Its cargo was claimed to have included about 60 tons of medicine, food and toys, plus 10,000 units of human blood plasma which requires constant refrigeration.


It's all just a wonderful public relations exercise for them, not to publicise Gaza's plight, but to bring themselves adulation.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:53 PM
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11. they're so pathetic - LET'S SUPPORT THEM!
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 02:40 PM by shira
what assholes.

they're only there to snuggle up with Khaled Meshaal and call Israel a Nazi state.

no soup for Palestinians.

nice.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:56 PM
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12. They are pathetic drama queens.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:12 PM
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13. they lied in Cyprus, saying they were going to Egypt
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 02:20 PM by shira
"The Cypriot Embassy in Tel Aviv issued a statement following the incident, saying "The Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus in Israel would like to inform that the "Spirit of Humanity" boat, sponsored by the Free Gaza Movement, that attempted in the early hours today to reach Gaza was given permission by the competent Authorities of the Republic of Cyprus to sail off the port of Larnaca in Cyprus on the basis of its declaration that its intended destination was the port of Port Said in Egypt."


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=124629653881...

classy organization.

I was hoping Cynthia McKinney would lend a little credibility to 'Free Gaza'.

:eyes:

at least this time, they left from Greek Cyprus and not Turkish occupied Cyprus.....morons.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 02:15 PM
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:33 PM
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15. was that message sent before or after Israel boarded the boat?
IDF seizes control of boat bound for Gaza

The Israel Navy intercepted a boat carrying international activists attempting to break a blockade of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip on Tuesday and forced it to sail to the southern port city of Ashdod, the Israel Defense Forces said.

Earlier Tuesday, the navy surrounded the vessel, which was also carrying humanitarian aid, and told the activists to turn back because of security risks in the area and the blockade, according to the IDF.

But the boat later entered Gaza's coastal waters, the IDF Spokespersons' Office said in a statement, after which a naval force boarded it.
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No shots were fired during the boarding of the boat, and the crew was to be handed over to the appropriate authorities, the IDF said.

In the statement, the IDF Spokespersons' Unit added that it "would like to emphasize that any organization or country that wishes to transfer humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip, can legally do so via the established crossings between Israel and the Gaza Strip

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1096729.html
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:54 PM
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17. it was sent before.....check the tweets at their website
nice try though.

such a stand-up organization you're advocating for. :eyes:
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:57 PM
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18. Can you provide a link? n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:36 PM
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20. link
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:51 PM
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21. Yawn been ther done that proved NOTHING n/t
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:14 PM
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25. it proves nothing because maybe there's a 1% chance that "zionists" tweeted about the lack of aid?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:23 AM
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28. Seeing as how there is a claim the aid
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 06:31 AM by azurnoir
will be "transferred" to Gaza we'll see however if there truly was so little why all the frothing?
What I find truly "odd" is that a week or so ago you were claim that a couple tweets to JPost was G-ds proof Hamas was operating in Iran are you really so gullible as to believe this? You do know that the protesters in Iran are asking people who support them by setting their Twitter location to Tehran and time to GMT-3:30 that so as to make it harder to locate them, with Twitter and the Net people can claim to be anyone they want where ever they want, something I keep in mind at all times
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:33 AM
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30. the frothing comes due to this group of idiots trying to break the siege, which would lead to Iran
or others eventually transporting whatever they want to aid and abett Hamas.

It is against Int'l Law to allow terrorists in and out of wherever they wish to go AND to allow them aid / weapons.

If all Free-Gaza wanted was to help with aid, they could have given as much as they wanted to Israeli authorities and that would go through the crossings.

Free-Gaza only wants to support Hamas, that's all.....and that's illegal.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:46 AM
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31. It would go through the crossing? When?
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 06:47 AM by azurnoir
the cargo was checked prior to the boat leaving Cyprus, are you now claiming the Cypriots are also aiding Hamas it would seem so.
There is also the fact that the boats are protesting the blockade of Gaza's waters by Israel.

ETA would not the Cypriots be able to say for sure what was on the boat
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:25 AM
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32. just as UN aid goes through the crossings, 'Free Gaza' could have sent aid too
and Israel doesn't know until they check that 'Free Gaza' didn't hook up with another ship en route to Israel from Cyprus. They did go through Lebanese waters first, so who knows if they did or did not hook up with a ship out there commandeered by Hezbollah.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 09:31 AM
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33. that a pretty fanciful flight
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 09:33 AM by azurnoir
the Mediterranean is on of the most well monitored areas on earth you as is the Gulf area you would have a better point if we were talking about the Atlantic, Pacific or possibly Indian Oceans
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:20 PM
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19. Symbolic bag of cement is post modern for
tons of aid. And the naive keep lappin it up like nectar.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:48 PM
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10. Jerusalem blasts Red Cross for report
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 02:07 PM by shira
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=124629653179...

it would be nice if the ICRC ever included steps that Hamas should take to make the humanitarian situation better for Palestinians.

perhaps make it clear that setting up rocket launchers in hospitals, nurseries and schools is not very helpful?

or that stealing humanitarian aid is bad?

nah!
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:37 PM
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16. Pfffft n/t
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