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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:30 AM
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The paradox of Israel's pursuit of might
Forty years ago, I was enraptured by Israel's courageous sense of mission. For me today, as for many, that idealism has palled


Max Hastings guardian.co.uk, Saturday 9 May 2009 08.00 BST


I first visited Israel in 1969. It was a time when much of the western world was still passionately enthused about the country's triumph in the 1967 six-day war. President Nasser had for years promised to sweep the Israelis into the sea. Instead, the tiny Jewish state, less than 20 years old, had engaged the armies of three Arab nations, and crushingly defeated them all. The Israelis successively smashed through Nasser's divisions on the western front, scaled and seized the Golan Heights, and snatched east Jerusalem and the West Bank in the face of Hussein's highly capable Jordanian army. Sinai was left strewn with the boots of fleeing Egyptians. The Israeli victory was an awesome display of command boldness, operational competence and human endeavour.

There was a euphoria in Israel in those days, which many visitors shared. We watched Jews from all over the world gathering to pray at the Wailing Wall for the first time in almost 2,000 years; Israelis of all ages revelling in the sensation of being able to work the kibbutzim of the north free from Syrian shells. From inhabiting one of the most claustrophobic places in the world, suddenly they found themselves free to roam miles across Sinai on a weekend. The soldiers of the Israeli army, careerists, conscripts and reservists alike, walked 10ft tall – the image of an exulting soldier made it on to the cover of Life magazine. They had shown themselves one of the greatest fighting forces of history, expunging almost at a stroke the memory of Jewish impotence in the face of centuries of persecution, of six million being herded helpless into cattle trucks for the death camps.

In the years that followed, I gazed across the Suez Canal during the artillery bombardments of the 1970 war of attrition with Egypt. I was a correspondent there in October 1973, during the Yom Kippur war. It was an extraordinarily moving spectacle, to behold the people of Israel rallying to meet what they perceived as a threat to their national survival. One morning I stood on the Golan Heights and watched Israeli tanks duelling with the Syrians, amid pillars of smoke and flame. A few nights later I bivouacked in the Sinai passes, talking for hours under the stars to Israeli reservists about their hopes and fears. With a colleague from the Financial Times, having thinly disguised ourselves as Israeli soldiers, we made an illicit night crossing of the Suez canal, to report Ariel Sharon's stunning encirclement operation which trapped the Egyptian army on the east bank. In those days I loved those people, and boundlessly admired their achievement. I wrote in one of my less temperate dispatches, expressing faith in Israel as a bastion of western civilization in the Middle East: "These last three weeks, I am proud to have shared the Israelis' camp fires in Sinai. They are a very great people who three weeks ago came closer to destruction than blind Europe seems willing to recognise."

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me, in my naivete, Israel's struggle had hitherto seemed that of a brilliant little people, who had suffered the most ghastly experience of the 20th century, struggling for survival amid a hostile Middle East still bent upon their destruction. Now, suddenly, I found myself meeting Israelis committed to the creation of a greater Israel embracing the West Bank, who were utterly heedless of the fate of its inhabitants. The Palestinians were perceived as losers, a mere incidental impediment to the fulfilment of Israel's historic territorial destiny. By a curious quirk, that young Israeli whom I heard enthuse about emptying the West Bank of Arabs was Binyamin Netanyahu, today his country's prime minister.

Listening to Israelis such as himself speaking of the Palestinians 30 years ago, I began to understand what a more thoughtful young man than myself might have seen from the outset: the huge danger implicit in rooting a society's polity in its military prowess and powers of conquest.

When I said something of the kind to a politician of the Israeli right, he responded contemptuously: "You are a typical European. You loved Israel when it was a victim. Now you turn your face from us, because we have become too strong for your taste. We are no longer Jews on our knees, begging for pity." I had lunch one day in Jerusalem in 1979 with that brilliant Israeli novelist and peacenik Amoz Oz, who said something of the same kind, but from a different perspective: "People like you," he said to me, "are going to become very disappointed in Israel in the years ahead. You want it to behave like a European society. Instead, it is becoming a Middle Eastern society. I hope that it will not behave worse than other Middle Eastern societies. But you should not delude yourself that it is likely to behave much better." This seemed a profound observation. The generation of Israelis whom I met, and embraced, in the late 1960s and early 1970s were overwhelmingly formed by the diaspora from which they came. In the decades since, as they have died, their society has become dominated by those forged by different experiences – either of whole lifetimes in the fevered hothouse of Israel, or by immigration from Russia, whence so many newcomers have arrived in recent times.

Three years ago in Jerusalem, I met a very bright couple in their late 40s, who had emigrated from Russia a decade earlier. When we began to speak of the Palestinians, the husband said: "In my Russian village in 1920, there was trouble with guerrillas. Budenny's Cossacks came. They burnt the village from which the guerrillas came. The guerrillas returned twice more. The Cossacks burned two more villages. Then there was no more trouble with guerrillas." This was the culture from which these two highly-educated Israelis came. They asserted that the Budenny method was the only proper one by which to address Hamas, Hizbollah and Fatah. The policies of recent Israeli governments suggest that their view is widely shared.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/09/israel-middle-east-max-hastings

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:09 AM
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1. Excellent piece.
Militarism is a risky strategy, it never fails to destroy in the end. Regimes that last are always pragmatic and willing to "appease" if that will do the job. Militarization has done huge damage to the USA. (Stiffles urge to Godwinize.) Look what happened Imperial Japan and the USSR? Is it not relevant that the government that the husband in the "very bright couple in their late 40s" refers to was swept into the dustbin of history? In just 72 years?
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:52 AM
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2. Hastings is a typical prejudiced upper class British twit
A portrait of the anti-Israel mind in upper class Britain

In May 2009, he delievered a Leonard Stein Lecture on Israel and the Palestinians at Balliol College Oxford, extracts from which were used for an opinion piece in today’s Guardian. His writing is an almost parodical one-stop shop for every misconception, misreading of history and civilisational pathology in the mindset of Britain’s upper class, Arabist, right.

...snip...

And so he continues, drawing a portrait of a Palestinian people seemingly devoid of agency, entirely stripped of any responsibility at all for their predicament.

Instead we get the standard shabby defence of terrorism that is now commonplace across Europe:

...snip...'

There is more, much more of this kind of moral incontinence, half-truth and falsehood slithering its way through his text.


In the words of an Israeli general whose name I forget:

“You are a typical European. You loved Israel when it was a victim. Now you turn your face from us, because we have become too strong for your taste. We are no longer Jews on our knees, begging for pity.”


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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 10:51 PM
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3. Agreed.
I don't understand, so he would still love Israel when it was under constant threat of annihilation? He writes like a spurned suitor. I don't overly favor either side in the I/P conflict but I have read and watched enough from enough news outlets/agencies/groups and org's from around the world to know that a disturbing number of people think that Israel should cut it's own throat for peace.

That attitude is one of the things slowing/stopping the peace process.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:34 AM
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4. The general you quote is daft.

He appears to think that there is something wrong with supporting victims against victimisers, and changeing one's support when who is oppressing whom changes.

The reason most of the left is critical of Israel is not because it is strong, but because it abuses that strength.
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