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| marmar
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Mon Apr-13-09 05:58 AM Original message |
| Chris Hedges: Israel’s Racist in Chief |
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| eyl
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Tue Apr-14-09 04:56 AM Response to Original message |
| 1. Mcuhas as I despise Lieberman, |
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| henank
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Tue Apr-14-09 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
| 2. Lieberman never belonged to Kach |
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| eyl
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Tue Apr-14-09 06:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
| 3. There are allegations |
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| Scurrilous
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Thu Apr-16-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
| 34. Kach's former secretary general says different: |
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| HamdenRice
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
| 4. When you step back and look at the big picture, Israel's trajectory has been tragic |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 6. I would dispute your golden view of 1967-76, which could be characterized as Labor's |
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| HamdenRice
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
| 7. I think those comments are taken out of context somewhat |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
| 8. Those comments speak for themselves. And you can't dispute the settlement activity of |
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| oberliner
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Tue Apr-14-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
| 9. The famous cut-and-paste Meir quotes again |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 10. Oberliner, do you believe those views didn't seriously inform the policy of the state of Israel? |
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| oberliner
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Tue Apr-14-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
| 11. Here are some other Meir quotes that inform the policy of the state of Israel |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
| 12. Like my mom always said: talk is cheap. The subsequent settler activity tells the story. |
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| oberliner
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Tue Apr-14-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
| 13. Settlement expansion became official Israeli policy when the Likud party took over in 1977 |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
| 19. And it all began in 1967... as well you know. nt |
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| oberliner
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Tue Apr-14-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
| 20. Weren't the West Bank and Gaza Strip occupied from 1948-1967? |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
| 22. Must we go through this AGAIN? |
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| oberliner
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Tue Apr-14-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
| 23. I am responding to your statement about it all starting in 1967 |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
| 26. No I don't. I think the Allon plan in addition to the settler activity in Jerusalem |
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| oberliner
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Wed Apr-15-09 05:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
| 27. Here are some statistics |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
| 28. I counted 25 settlements established before 1977; among them are the "worst." |
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| oberliner
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #28 |
| 31. Wikipedia has the settler population from 1972 |
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| azurnoir
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Tue Apr-14-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
| 24. What about the Nahal? |
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| Violet_Crumble
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
| 29. No-one with any knowledge would try to deny that Meir was intransigent and no dove at all... |
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| shira
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Thu Apr-16-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
| 36. Golda Meir, intransigent, no dove at all? Can you please name some Israeli leaders who were doves |
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| Sezu
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Tue Apr-14-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 14. Anti-Israelis often revert to false or out of context |
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| Malikshah
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
| 16. Clear equivocation on Meir part here. Semantic obfuscation |
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| oberliner
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Tue Apr-14-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
| 21. She has made numerous other remarks on the subject |
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| Violet_Crumble
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
| 30. Have you read 'Scars of War Wounds of Peace' by Shlomo Ben-Ami? |
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| oberliner
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
| 32. Have you read her autobiography "My Life" ? |
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| Violet_Crumble
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Thu Apr-16-09 06:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
| 33. Is there a chance you'll answer the question I asked you? |
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| oberliner
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Thu Apr-16-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
| 35. There was no condescension intended |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
| 18. Not one of you have touched the point: illegal settlement began in 1967 |
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| azurnoir
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Tue Apr-14-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
| 25. It may have begun with Chiam Herzog's |
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| shira
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Thu Apr-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
| 37. Settlements began in 1967 due to Israel winning a defensive war |
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| ProgressiveMuslim
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
| 5. The salient point remains unchallenged: "acceptable" thinking vis-a-vis Arabs |
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| IndianaGreen
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
| 15. K&R |
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| Karenina
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
| 17. Facts on the ground. n/t |
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