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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:05 PM
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Israelis admit missile use may have been illegal
AFTER weeks of strenuous denial that it had used white phosphorous in the heavily populated Gaza Strip, Israel finally admitted yesterday that the controversial weapon had been deployed in its offensive.

The army's use of white phosphorous -- with its distinctive shell burst of dozens of separate smoke trails -- was revealed on January 5, and denied by the army. Now, in the face of mounting evidence, Israel has been forced to backtrack.

"Yes, phosphorous was used, but not in any illegal manner," Yigal Palmor, a foreign ministry spokesman said. "Some practices could be illegal but we are going into that. The IDF (Israel Defence Forces) is holding an investigation concerning one specific unit and one incident."

The incident in question is believed to be the firing of white phosphorous shells at a UN school in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip on January 17. The shells are legal if used as a battlefield smokescreen but banned from deployment in civilian areas.

Ambulances

Pictures of the attack show Palestinian medics fleeing parked ambulances as dozens of blobs of burning phosphorous rain down on the compound.

A senior army official also admitted yesterday that shells containing phosphorous had been used in Gaza, but insisted that the aim of their deployment had been to provide a smokescreen. Before the attack the Ministry of Defence had asked lawyers to investigate the legal consequences of deploying white phosphorous inside the Gaza Strip, home to 1.5 million Palestinians.

"From what I know, at least one month before it was used, a legal team had been consulted on the implications," said an Israeli defence official. White phosphorous is commonly stocked in NATO arsenals and is used by US and British forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Because Israel is not a signatory to the treaty that created the International Court of Justice in The Hague, it cannot be tried there. What concerns Israel is that any country that is a signatory to the Geneva Convention can try and prosecute individuals who took part in the Gaza operation as culpable of war crimes.

Amnesty International said that Israel's reluctance to admit its use of the munitions had cost lives. Most victims were treated as normal burns cases Amnesty said, but the phosphorous particles embedded in the flesh kept burning under the dressings, sometimes causing irreparable damage to internal organs. ( The Times, London)

- James Hider in Jerusalem and Sheera Frenkel in Gaza City
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/israel...
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:10 PM
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1. Did Dershowitz head that legal team?
The team that concluded that white phosphorous was ok to use in one of the most densely populated tracts of land in the world?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:11 PM
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2. Wow, that is really messed up.
I would like to support Israel, but these events make supporting them difficult.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:12 PM
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3. Interesting statements, however I have the rebuttal handy
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 11:13 PM by Alamuti Lotus
ROCKETS ROCKETS ANTI-SEMITES ROCKETS HUMAN-SHIELDS ROCKETS ANTI-SEMITES ROCKETS HUMAN-SHIELDS SELF-DEFENSE ROCKETS HUMAN-SHIELDS
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:18 PM
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5. What's funny is...
Your argument is still more coherent than some of the rebuttals I've seen. Some days I click the link for the I/P forum and wonder why I don't just go brows freeperland for a few minutes instead...
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:19 PM
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6. On the contrary
rockets-rockets-disengagement plan-rockets-rockets-terrorists-hate freedom-what would you do-rockets-rockets-anti defamation league-rockets-rockets-anti Semitic-rockets-mortars=justified.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:16 PM
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4. Could the use of white phosphorus be a war crime????
:sarcasm:


How far we've come, from Germany till now....
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:48 PM
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7. well it seems "someones' smoke screen is dissipating n/t
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 12:49 AM
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8. Israel keeps saying "Never forget."
Apparently they didn't. They copied it all exactly in Gaza.
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delad Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 01:19 AM
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11. they obviously mean "never forget
but when we do it we'd like you develop selective amnesia"
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 03:29 PM
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12. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany?
Is that what you are doing with this quotation?
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 12:53 AM
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9. Ya think? NO, you don't!
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 01:17 AM
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10. Sad to see such inept journalism...artlillery shells are not missiles
and docs who can not recognize WP burns under these circumstance should turn their licenses in
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