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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:46 AM
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Gaza: 'I watched an Israeli soldier shoot dead my two little girls'
A Palestinian father has claimed that he saw two of his young daughters shot dead and another critically injured by an Israeli soldier who emerged from a stationary tank and opened fire as the family obeyed an order from the Israeli forces to leave their home.

Khaled Abed Rabbo said Amal, aged two and Suad, seven, were killed by fire from the soldier's semi-automatic rifle. His third daughter, Samer, four, has been evacuated to intensive care in a Belgian hospital after suffering critical spinal injuries which he said were inflicted in the attack early in Israel's ground offensive.

Mr Abed Rabbo stood near the wreckage off his subsequently destroyed home on the eastern edge of the northern Gaza town of Jabalya yesterday and described how a tank had parked outside the building at 12.50pm on 7 January and ordered the family in Arabic through a megaphone to leave building. He said his 60-year-old mother had also been shot at as she left waving her white headscarf with her son, daughter in law and her three grandchildren.

"Two soldiers were on the tank eating chips, then one man came out of the tank with a rifle and started shooting the kids," Mr Abed Rabbo, who receives a salary as a policeman from the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority in Ramallah said. The family say they think the weapon used by the soldier was an M16 and that the first to be shot was Amal. Mr Abed Rabbo said that Suad was then shot with what he claimed were 12 bullets, and then Samer.

more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaz...
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:57 AM
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1. They are obviously trying to kill girls to keep down the population.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:22 AM
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2. 'Legal' weapons also kill (Amira Hass)
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"The weapons and ammunition that killed the brothers Kassab and Ibrahim Shurab, aged 28 and 17, were legal. But apart from the weapons and ammunition, was there anything legal about killing them?

On Friday, January 16, the two were driving with their father Mohammed, 64, in a red Land Rover from the family's farm near the Green Line to their home in Khan Yunis. The father drove, Kassab sat in the passenger seat and Ibrahim sat in the back. The temporary cease-fire, allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza, was held between 10 A.M. to 2 P.M. that day.

They came to one Israel Defense Forces inspection point in the area and were allowed to continue. At about 1 P.M. they reached the Abu Zaidan supermarket in the Al-Foukhari neighborhood. An adjacent building had been converted into an IDF outpost. Soldiers moved in, turning the tenants into prisoners in their own homes.

Suddenly intensive fire opened on the Land Rover from the army outpost, about 30 to 50 meters away, according to the father's estimate. Kassab was hit in the chest, came out of the sport utility vehicle (SUV), collapsed and died. Ibrahim jumped out and was hit in the leg by the fire, which did not stop. He tried to call for help on his mobile phone but a soldier shouted at him not to call and swore at him in Arabic, the father told Tom, a member of Physicians for Human Rights, hours later. The father's hand was injured in the fire. He managed to drag his living son to a nearby wall and telephoned home, the Red Crescent, journalists and even his son in the United States. He saw a tank, saw Israeli soldiers coming and going, he told Tom.

At 11 P.M., 10 hours after they were injured, his bleeding son grew colder and his breath weakened. Mohammed managed to drag him back to the shell-riddled SUV in the hope of finding a warmer spot for him. But half an hour after midnight, between Friday and Saturday, the son took his last breath in his father's arms, 30 to 50 meters away from the soldiers.

Tom, from his Tel Aviv home, joined the night-long efforts of the Red Crescent and other organizations, trying to persuade the army to allow an ambulance to evacuate the wounded men. Every now and then, the father called Tom, who says he did not hear any shooting in the background when Mohammed talked to him. The European Hospital is located some two kilometers from the site. One minute's ride in an ambulance? Two? At about 9:30 the next morning Tom was told that the IDF had permitted an ambulance to approach at 12 noon that day.

The IDF spokesman commented: "The ambulance was permitted to enter only after a situation assessment of the area was held and it was decided that the operative conditions allowed for it. The wounded were evacuated by the Palestinian Health Ministry to a hospital in Rafah.

As a rule, during the "humanitarian corridor," the IDF responded with fire only when rockets were fired at Israel or when fire was directed at the IDF. We cannot investigate and reconstruct every occurrence and confirm or deny every information brought before us."

Anyone who has not escaped the consistent testimonies flowing from bombarded Gaza into self-satisfaction knows that this is not an isolated incident. As was published in Haaretz, soldiers shot at ambulances and at escaping civilians who carried white flags. As the Red Cross witnessed, people injured in the bombings, including children, were trapped for days among the corpses of their relatives at a hearing distance of IDF positions.

Soldiers do not act in a void. They have commanders and there is esprit de corps, which enabled this, just as it enabled IDF mortars to land on UNRWA schools. The IDF is the people's army. The people, an overwhelming majority of it, drank in the argumentations for these acts eagerly and supported them. Israel is a democracy. So Kassab and Ibrahim were killed legally."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057369.html
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:45 PM
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3. but "Amira Hass is a propagandist, terrorist-supporting hag"
so I've been told here.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:46 PM
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4. The chips were planted by Hamas, and forced him to do that
This is obviously what happened. Damn those evil chip-planting child killers in Hamas for forcing this action!
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:49 PM
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5. The Independent: Gaza: 'I watched an Israeli soldier shoot dead my two little girls'
Gaza: 'I watched an Israeli soldier shoot dead my two little girls'

Grieving Palestinian father says children were killed after family obeyed order from troops to leave Gaza home

By Donald Macintyre in Gaza City
Wednesday, 21 January 2009

A Palestinian father has claimed that he saw two of his young daughters shot dead and another critically injured by an Israeli soldier who emerged from a stationary tank and opened fire as the family obeyed an order from the Israeli forces to leave their home.

Khaled Abed Rabbo said Amal, aged two and Suad, seven, were killed by fire from the soldier's semi-automatic rifle. His third daughter, Samer, four, has been evacuated to intensive care in a Belgian hospital after suffering critical spinal injuries which he said were inflicted in the attack early in Israel's ground offensive.

Mr Abed Rabbo stood near the wreckage off his subsequently destroyed home on the eastern edge of the northern Gaza town of Jabalya yesterday and described how a tank had parked outside the building at 12.50pm on 7 January and ordered the family in Arabic through a megaphone to leave building. He said his 60-year-old mother had also been shot at as she left waving her white headscarf with her son, daughter in law and her three grandchildren.

"Two soldiers were on the tank eating chips, then one man came out of the tank with a rifle and started shooting the kids," Mr Abed Rabbo, who receives a salary as a policeman from the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority in Ramallah said. The family say they think the weapon used by the soldier was an M16 and that the first to be shot was Amal. Mr Abed Rabbo said that Suad was then shot with what he claimed were 12 bullets, and then Samer.

The soldier who fired the rifle had what Mr Abed Rabbo thought were ringlets visible below his helmet, he said. The small minority of ultra-Orthodox Jews who serve in the army are in a unit which did not take part in the Gaza offensive and only a very small number of settlers who also favour that hairstyle serve in other units.

It has so far been impossible independently to verify Mr Abed Rabbo's claim and the military said last night Israeli Defence Forces "does not target civilians, only Hamas terrorists and infrastructure". It added: "The IDF is investigating various claims made with regard to Operation Cast Lead and at the end of its investigation will respond accordingly."

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaz...
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:49 PM
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6. Creating the next wave of terrorists...
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delad Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:49 PM
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7. Just seen this on BBC world
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 08:16 PM by delad
A BBC journalist went looking for the girl's father to confirm the story. One kid (infant) was killed instantly, the other died in hospital, the grandmother is still being treated for bullet wounds. When the BBC journalist finally found and approached the father, his first question was "How is she?", the journalist told him that she couldn't walk. He looked desolate. he was standing on a pile of rubble that was his house, trying to pick out pieces. obviously the house was blown up after the family was brought out and shot at. The story the father told was the same story that the journalist had heard earlier, "nearly word for word"
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:49 PM
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8. Dup
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:49 PM
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9. Well then, if Khaled Abed Rabbo said it...
It MUST be true :eyes:

I'm sure there will be numerous other complaints about these two soldiers who so nonchalantly killed this man's family. After all, if they have such little regard for human life why would they stop killing people after they killed his two daughters? In fact, why would they leave any witnesses behind at all?
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delad Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:58 PM
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10. BBC news
has stated that the uncle's version of events (he's with the child who can't walk anymore in hospital) was almost word for word the same as the father's. Maybe they colluded while they waited for transport for the girl and the grandmother. I'm not saying it's definitely true but it does sound believable.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:31 PM
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11. And consider, what's the alternative explanation?
The family shot the girls themselves in order to have a horror story? Hamas is wandering around randomly executing their own citizens?
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delad Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:46 PM
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12. excuse my poor writing skills
what i meant to say was something along the lines of; i find the fact that the same story is coming from separate members of the family (uncle, grandmother and father) who are located in different places believable.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:38 AM
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13. Israel accused of executing parents in front of children in Gaza
Israel has refuted allegations of war atrocities in Gaza after Palestinian children described how their parents had been "executed" by Israeli troops.

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"One nine-year-old boy said his father had been shot dead in front of him despite surrendering to Israeli soldiers with his hands in the air.

Another youngster described witnessing the deaths of his mother, three brothers and uncle after the house they were in was shelled.

He said his mother and one of his siblings had been killed instantly, while the others bled to death over a period of days.

A psychiatrist treating children in the village of Zeitoun on the outskirts of Gaza City, where the alleged incidents took place, described the deaths as a "massacre".

Rawya Borno, a Jordanian doctor, said civilians, including children, were rounded up and killed by Israeli troops.

Israel has denied the claims, dismissing them as Hamas propaganda, but said that an investigation is being conducted into soldiers' conduct in the area.

In interviews with ITV News, Palestinians claimed that Israeli forces knowingly killed civilians in Zeitoun on the morning of Jan 14.

Abdullah Samouni, nine, described the moment his father was allegedly "executed" by Israeli soldiers.

Holding his arms in the air, he said: "He was surrendering like this. My father came out and they shot him right away."

A boy named Ahmed said he was trapped for days in the wreckage of the shelled Samouni family's house.

He said: "My mother was dead beside me, she was clutching my brother Nasser and they were dead. My brother Itzaq was bleeding for two days and then he died. My brother Izmael bled to death in one day. My uncle Talal was bleeding for two hours and he died. God bless them."

Dr Borno said: "It's a massacre. They collected them from their houses. They knew that they were civilians. They were children."

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