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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:13 AM
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Report: Rockets hit Northern Israel (from Southern Lebanon)
Get ready for the second front!

Last update - 08:05 08/01/2009

Report: Rockets hit Northern Israel

By Jack Khoury, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service


At least three Katyusha rockets, fired from south Lebanon, landed in northern Israel early Thursday morning.

A medical official said several people were lightly wounded. Channel 10 reported that five people were lightly wounded or suffered shock.

The rockets marked the first time Katyushas have landed in Israel since Israel began its offensive against Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip on December 27.

Residents of the western Galilee on Wednesday reported that three rockets hit their communities, with one falling near Nahariya.

Channel 1 reported that several northern residents have opened their bomb shelters.

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on Wednesday warned that should Israel attack Lebanon, it would suffer an even greater defeat than the one he claimed it suffered in 2006.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1053800.html
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:24 AM
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1. Uh-oh. Is this the other shoe dropping?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:39 AM
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3. No, just Hezbollah getting very stupid
They may get the same multilevel strike treatment that Hamas got, ground war optional.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:43 AM
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4. It might not be them.
Lebanon is home to a lot of Palestinian refugees. It doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to think they got a few rockets.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:44 AM
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7. So once again Palestinians will be the fall guys for the other Arab and Muslims nations
Grads are serious ordnance.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:58 AM
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16. You might find this interesting:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/20...

The attacks came after Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Lebanon's Hezbollah, warned that "all possibilities" were open against Israel as he gave a speech condemning Israel's offensive in Gaza and voicing support for Hamas.

So now what? Is a Lebanese front opening up, or could Hezbollah just be kicking Israel while it's somewhat distracted?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:06 AM
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19. Hamas has Grads too
that was part of the "justification" for Gaza and Grads are WWII era unguided missiles
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:24 AM
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21. How would they get them there? You can't exactly put them in your pocket
Grads = Katyushas = 122mm rockets. They are in current manufacture in several nations. This is not left over ordnance from WWII. Checkout Global Security for some good info on this.

They are rockets not missiles, which means aimed, not guided

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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:37 AM
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23. And these are "new" Grads
more powerful, can travel greater distances, and aim better, causing potentially much greater harm.

The new ones, are 122mm Grads, which are three meters in length. They most likely have been smuggled in pieces into Gaza through tunnels under the Egyptian border during the "ceasefire".

In the past, regular Grad rockets had reached up to 12 miles inside Israel, hitting cities such as Ashkelon. But this "enhanced"longer version has a slightly larger 22kg warhead and can go 25-30 miles.

And no, there is no hiding these under a shirt.

Wonder how the Palestinians had the money to smuggle big expensive rockets, but not food.

:wow:
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:53 AM
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28. They are all aimed both missiles and rockets
my point was that if Hamas had them then it was quite possible another Palestinian group in Lebanon has them too, which is apparently true
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:43 AM
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6. And why not, they have already retreated twice from them!
Third's the charm?.. :eyes:

To the original piece, I doubt this is Hizbu'llah as does Israel. At this precise time, anyway. Per almanar (watching on television), there is major activity ramping up at the moment -- schools are being closed and shelters opened in Galilee region, at least 4 shells fired on positions in South Lebanon. There will be a response.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:46 AM
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11. Given the control that Hezbollah has...you think refugees stole some serious ordnance
was able to aim it, and launched it. I want to see the story on this one. Occams Razor tells it different
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:04 AM
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17. Do you have proof or just wishful thinking? n/t
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:26 AM
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22. Occams Razor
- Hezbollah controls southern Lebanon
- Grads/Katyushas are heavy ordnance. Not something that your average refugee would have access to
- Nasrallah has been doing a lot of saber rattling.

There is more. Unless shown otherwise, the default answer would be Hezbollah supported in some way the action
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:40 AM
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26. Both Hezbollah and Hamas
with the support of Iran (their funder and supplier of weapons) continues to try to push for a regional war.

They have coaxed Israel to war before, and they continue to.

Does Iran want to be Bombed?

You have to wonder.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:51 AM
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27. Perhaps Occam had a double edged blade
because reports last night and this morning state that Hezbollah and Israel both say that this incident was not Hezbollah's doing.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:34 AM
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2. What a fucking mess.
I just thank god that I don't live in that part of the world.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:43 AM
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5. The rockets crashed down on a road ...Bush is scheduled to arrive in Israel in an attempt to...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:45 AM
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9. What is Bush going to do with 12 days left in his Presidency?
The sob has been AWOL for 8-years!
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:47 AM
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12. answer: war monger
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:48 AM
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14. Also IMO; this Lebanon thing could be U.S. black ops stirring the mix
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:56 AM
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15. The world doesn't revolve around Bush!
Believe it or not, there are a few billion other people outside of our borders, most of them perfectly capable of stirring shit up on their own.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:04 AM
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18. Yea, used to be a few thousand, now, thanks to bush, a few billion
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:09 AM
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20. Once again, history does not begin with Bush
you give the idiot more than his due--on this matter, or any other.
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GSPowner Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:39 AM
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24. Could be Aliens getting tired of the Jews...seriously where do you get Black Ops from
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 09:39 AM by GSPowner
conspiratorial don't you think? There is no evidence to even suggest that.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:00 AM
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25. Since when do black opts provide evidence?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:33 PM
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29. "invigorate peace talks between Israeli and Palestinian leaders"
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 12:37 PM by GoesTo11
So says the article.

I guess he's done invigorating the economy.

Longer article from The Onion here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008...
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:45 AM
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8. Some schools shutting down in Galilee(?) area & Nahariya, IDF fires at least four shells at Lebanon
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 12:51 AM by Alamuti Lotus
details sketchy, watching this on television now..
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:48 AM
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13. Same counter battery file technique as being used in Gaza
Have to wonder how far it was from *protected* sites
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:46 AM
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10. Several lightly wounded as Katushas hit Nahariya area

Two people were lightly wounded when terrorists in Lebanon on Thursday morning fired three Katyusha rockets at the area of Nahariya in northern Israel.

It was unclear whether the rockets were fired by Hizbullah or whether the attack was the making of Palestinian organizations in Lebanon acting in solidarity with Hamas.

In the IDF's Northern Command, assessments were that the short salvo on Thursday morning was likely to have been fired by Palestinian terror groups and not by Hizbullah, but it could not be ruled out whether Hizbullah might have told Palestinian groups to fire at Israel as its proxies.

IDF sources said they fired back at the launching sites of the rockets.

...

On Wednesday, Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah stepped up his rhetoric against Israel, warning that the IDF could not destroy Hamas and that Israel would suffer another "defeat" should it attack Lebanon.

In a speech broadcast on Arab media channels, Nasrallah vowed to crush any offensive Israel might launch against Hizbullah.

Israel has warned Hizbullah against igniting a second front, saying it would retaliate massively.



http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=123116730737...
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