70,000 Iranian students 'volunteer to carry out suicide bombings in Israel'

[populistdriven]

Source: telegraph.co.uk

Volunteer suicide groups have made similar requests in the past and the government has never responded, which suggests that the campaigns are mostly propaganda.

According to the official IRNA news agency, hardline student leader Esmaeil Ahmadi said the students want to fight Israel in support of Hamas, Gaza's Islamic militant rulers.

Iran is Hamas' main backer, though the country denies sending weapons to the Islamic militant movement that took control of the Gaza Strip in 2007. Iran considers Israel its sworn enemy, and Mr Ahmadinejad has called for the destruction of the Jewish state.

Five hard-line student groups and a conservative clerical group launched the registration drive for suicide bombers last week and asked the government to allow them to stage the attacks.


Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/ir...

[Sultana]

1. What a bunch of psychos

How is this suppose to help Palestinians?

[populistdriven]

4. This just makes Hamas even more like a puppet to Iran

Sad to think they were democratically elected.

[scarletwoman]

7. Sad to think that supposed "liberals" would believe anything that the Telegraph publishes.

This is the same paper that touted the "big find" of documents in Iraq that "proved" that George Galloway was on Saddam's payroll.

Except it was all bullshit, and Galloway won a big fat libel suit against them for publishing such crap.

Consider the source before you start shaking your pom-poms.

sw

[Sultana]

11. Who is shaking pom-poms?

ugh, get a life.

[populistdriven]

25. ap lies

this is Associated press propaganda http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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[IsItJustMe]

15. It's called the herd mentality.

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[Dr.Phool]

16. Exactly what I was thinking.

More bullshit from the Telegraph, to be picked up by Faux News tomorrow, and give ole itchy-finger George a last chance to bomb Iran.

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[aquart]

19. Yep.

But the idea of Persians committing suicide for Arabs is just...wildly entertaining.

[EFerrari]

21. Exactly.

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[oberliner]

47. It's an AP wire story

No reporting from the Telegraph involved.

[EFerrari]

50. It's an AP wire story that meets the standards of journalism

at the Telegraph.

[Dorian Gray]

6. Yeah...

not going to help.

And it just polarizes the rest of the west into thinking that Iran is filled with fanatics.

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[LARED]

2. I recommend the

hard-line student leader Esmaeil Ahmadi take the lead here and demonstrate how to blow himself up (away from others of course)

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[Cha]

3. That can't be

good.

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[scarletwoman]

5. Yeah, let's all believe whatever the fucking Telegraph publishes. Are people so uninformed that they

don't know that the "Torygraph" is a right wing propaganda rag?

Cripes....

sw

[populistdriven]

10. Here is the IRNA news agency Original Source

http://www5.irna.ir/En/View/FullStory/?NewsId=293605&id...

[scarletwoman]

13. I don't see anything about "suicide bombers". They obviously want to go fight on behalf of the

Palestinians, which means there's a chance they might die ("martyrdom seeking"), but there's nothing at the irna link about "suicide bombers".

This is what happens in war. People want to sign up to help the side they support and fight against the other side. Israel has the U.S. on its side, providing the most up-to-date weapon systems and total political cover.

If, as Israel likes to describe it, this is a "war", then no one should cry foul when the opposing side has allies who want to join the fight.

sw

[4dsc]

37. Accounts of Israeli war crimes in Gaza

http://www5.irna.ir/En/View/FullStory/?NewsId=294212&Id...

Its get worse for these criminals..

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[Fearless]

8. The idea is just religious propaganda...

Like Israel promising to wipe Hamas off the map.

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[GoesTo11]

9. Don't they need a special visa for that?

Plus they'd overload Israel's harassment checkpoints.

Can't be that many genuine student volunteers.

Probably it's a required class project.

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[truthisfreedom]

14. Tough classes, huh?

You kids will do anything to get out of your homework.

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[L0oniX]

17. I smell bull shit. I just can't believe the press or tv news anymore.

They have betrayed me and the American people and I will never trust them again.

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[aquart]

18. 70,000 Persians have volunteered to die for Arabs?

Damn! That's impressive. Of course, they'll have to stop spitting when they say, "Arab."

Curious. Why don't they just join their army and fight?

[Marrah_G]

49. I was thinking that too......

[ShortnFiery]

20. Hey Kids! That's one hell-of-a *FIELD TRIP*? And for Sunni Arabs not Shia Persians EVEN.

Hot damn! The entire notion is bizarre from the get go.

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[superconnected]

22. I think we should all focus on why this propaganda machine is telling us this.

It looks like the bush admin still really really wants to strike iran. It will keep the defense industry(republicans for bush) rich for years.

[populistdriven]

32. ap lies

this is Associated press propaganda http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[GoesTo11]

40. Is AP telling the truth?

I don't know if repeating "ap lies" adds that much to your argument after the 10th time or so.

[populistdriven]

41. did you read the link? This is a lie / mistranslation by the AP - there are no suicide bombers

[GoesTo11]

42. We can all cut and paste

But you don't have to keep pasting to make the point.

[oberliner]

43. What is a "martyrdom operation" ? nt

[14thColony]

44. A martyrdom operation

is one in which the individual expects, and more importantly intends, to die during the course of its execution - a one-way mission. Often this imples 'suicide bomber', and that is the most common form of deliberate martyrdom operation at the present time on planet Earth, but it hasn't always been so. Japanese kamikazee pilots were engaged in martyrdom operations in WWII, as were Japanese officers who charged entire groups of American troops with just a sword seeking to be killed in battle rather than face the humility of capture. American servicemen throwing themselves on grenades to save comrades, or suiciding their burning aircraft into enemy ships were carrying out the same sort of self-sacrificial act, just on an ad hoc 'heat of battle' basis.

[oberliner]

45. So is the AP version really a mistranslation?

Was "suicide bomber" not what he was talking about?

[14thColony]

48. Not so much a mistranslation as a misrepresentation

since the original Islamic Republic News Agency piece was published at the IRNA English-language website, and in English they clearly use the words 'martyrdom operations.' Sounds more like The Telegraph deciding to sex it up by using the more attention-getting term 'suicide bombers.'

[slackmaster]

46. They'll probably have a little trouble getting through customs