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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:28 AM
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What made a young lawyer from Jenin enter a packed restaurant and blow herself up, killing 20 people and wounding dozens of others? The story of Hanadi Jaradat, the bomber from Maxim restaurant in Haifa, combines a tough family situation, religious zealotry - and revenge.

Four months ago, Hanadi Jaradat stood over the freshly dug grave of her brother Fadi and vowed to avenge his death. "Your blood will not have been shed in vain," she is quoted as saying by the Jordanian daily Al-Arab al-Yum. "The murderer will yet pay the price and we will not be the only ones who are crying." Weeping bitterly, she added: "If our nation cannot realize its dream and the goals of the victims, and live in freedom and dignity, then let the whole world be erased."

Two weeks ago, Jaradat made good on her terrible promise. She erased the world of dozens of Israeli men, women, children and infants, and many people are indeed crying: the Zer Aviv family, the Almog family, and all the relatives and friends of the dead and the wounded from the terrorist attack at the Maxim restaurant in Haifa. Once again the question arises: What makes a 29-year-old lawyer, an educated woman with a good salary whose whole life was ahead of her, enter a packed restaurant at 2 P.M. on a Saturday and blow herself up with the sole purpose of killing as many total strangers as possible, none of whom had ever done anything to her?

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/350272.html

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It is disappointing to see a piece rationalizing terror in a fine paper. Look at the irony. This person offers aid and comfort to terrorists. The IDF spares her life. She shows no gratitutde. Rather she commits more of the very terror that led to the elimination of her relatives. If the family continues down this road, more will die. And the killer's father would like to be congratulated. Oh, my.


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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:35 AM
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1. Life
The IDF "spares" here life?!? It didn't spare the life of two of her relatives and she should show gratitude for that! No wonder people get desperate and see no meaning of living when you have many of your closest relatives killed... And then you wonder...
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:38 AM
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2. The Palestnian's ingratitude rivals that of the Iraqis!


So many lives spared by the Most Humanitarian Army in the World, and still all they do is whine about malnutrition!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:39 AM
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3. I understand her reason.
It is done a 1000 times an hour. I my self am not a revengful person but I must say I must talk my self out of it at times and I have never had those reasons.It is not easy to say you would not ever do something in some frames of mind.I am sure this is as old as the history of man.It is so old that the Bible even speaks that only God has the right.We our selfs are doing it in the name of our gov. How many have we killed in these countries that did nothing to anyone and yet we claim in the name of 911 we have every right to kill who we wish?
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:40 AM
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4. Yeah
Good point Izzie, as sad as it is.. :-(
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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:38 PM
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5. She welcomed a terrorist
and put her family at risk. I would hope this father could realize the danger awaiting those condoning and aiding terrorism. More deaths in the family would be unfortunate.
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:26 PM
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6. More deaths in the family would be unfortunate.
But they easily enough be arranged!

Bring em on!

Yippppeeeee Kay Yay Cowboy!

Oh my?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:34 PM
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7. You get the feeling he'd be devastated by any more deaths
:eyes:
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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:23 AM
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13. Explain yourself
I stated more deaths would be unfortunate. How can you object to this?
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:27 AM
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15. Unfortunate
Unfortunate is all you can come up with? If I said it was unfortunate that Israeli civilians were killed by a suicide bomber some would be screaming that isn't condemning enough...

It wasn't misfortune, it was clear intent that they were killed!
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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:25 AM
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14. The IDF was moral
and spared her and children. She repsonded by killing women and children.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:29 PM
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16. That's like saying...
that all those NOT killed are spared.

In other words, every man in the world has been spared by the US> They haven't nuked the world yet.

"Spared" should only apply to one who is guilty.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:32 PM
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17. Well
That can only mean that they are all guilty by birth for being born Palestinians...
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:37 PM
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8. This is a fine article...
it does a fine job of showing how Israeli incursions can encourage suicide bombings.

For Loyal: That doesn't make them justified. They are still despicable acts of terrorism against innocent people.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:42 PM
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10. You should put that in your sig, just to make sure.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:41 PM
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9. One always hesitates to predict the future,
but I would expect that more of this sort of "generosity"
will naturally lead to more off this sort of "ingratitude".
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:44 PM
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11. Everyone owes gratitude to the US!
They haven't yet nuked the world!

All kneel before the great and humanitarian United States!
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Saudade Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:59 PM
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12. None
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 07:59 PM by Saudade
"Oh my!"

I am not aware of any national liberation movement in modern history that has not succeeded in the long run, no matter what the odds.

Israel will learn the hard way, but they will learn.

"Oh my!"
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:24 PM
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18. I'm reminded of a statement from a LTTE
in the Nation magazine.

"Someone doesn't blow themselves up in a crowded restaurant because there isn't enough ice in their coke."
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:42 PM
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19. The glorification of murderers may be a reason
Glorifying murder has become the norm, murder is considered a blessing because the PA inculcates this philosophy in children.


A Palestinian soccer tournament for 12-year-old boys has been named after the suicide bomber who killed 29 Jews during Passover Seder. The suicide bomber's brother has been chosen to present the trophy to the winning team. All seven teams participating in the tournament are named after terrorists and others who the PA refers to as Shahids - those having died for Allah.

http://www.pmw.org.il/new/murderF.htm
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:50 PM
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20. Israel elects them...
far worse then glorifying them.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:04 PM
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21. Well, My Friend
Given Arafat's claim of election to office, we are back to intoducing Mr. Pot to Mr. Kettle in this regard, are we not?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:19 PM
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22. That is a good point...
neither side is innocent here; that was my point.

Saying that it's all the Palestinians' fault because they (or, rather, their "culture") glorify murder is unfair.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:25 PM
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23. Indeed, Sir
There are problems on both sides, certainly. The thing that Ms. Rini references, however, does make a real contribution to the problem, particularly in increasing the exposure of children to gun-fire, and in recruitment to mlitant organizations. Young boys especially are rather prone to dreams of glory, after all....
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:39 PM
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25. I would not be one to deny that...
what bothers me is the way it is advertised as the single cause of the suicide bombings, the root of all evil when it comes to the I/P conflict.

Young boys would not see the the suicide bombers as glorious if they did not have to endure what they do endure in the Occupied Territories.

Of course, they probably wouldn't have to endure what they do endure if the various militant organizations stopped all attacks. It appears to be a cycle that shall not end anytime soon...
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:25 PM
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24. Machine Hiccoughed
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 09:26 PM by The Magistrate
"On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
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