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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:53 AM
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Zbigniew Brzezinski: Israel's push for Iran strike may hurt U.S. ties
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"Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security adviser to Jimmy Carter, said in an interview with Haaretz over the weekend that Israel will do harm to its relations with the United States if it insists on lobbying Washington for an American military strike on Iran.

Brzezinski was at the center of a controversy during much of the United States presidential campaign when Jewish opponents of president-elect Barack Obama sent out mass emails calling the former U.S. president's aide anti-Israel, and saying he was one of the Illinois senator's key advisors on foreign policy.

The Obama campaign denied that Brzezinski and other figures like Bill Clinton's former advisor Robert Malley with dovish positions on the Israel-Palestinian question were among his Middle East advisors.

Brzezinski told Haaretz: "One (piece of) advice that I would give the Israeli government is not to engage in this campaign for an American attack on Iran, because I don't think America is going to attack Iran, and if it did, and the consequences would be disastrous."

"It wouldn't be particularly good for American-Israeli relations, and there will be a lot of resentment against (Israel)," he said. "There already has been some after the war in Iraq."

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:12 AM
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1. Do you agree with his four fundamental principles for resolving the I/P conflict?
From the article:

They include a Palestinian renunciation of the right of return; an Israeli commitment to genuinely share Jerusalem; a final border based on the '67 lines with minor alterations to allow for annexation of settlement blocs; and a demilitarized Palestinian state.

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:06 PM
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3. not Scurrilous
but I can answer for me

Palestinian renunciation of the right of return: partial RoR those who were actually evicted from Israel who are for the most part elderly could go alot farther for my POV but we've had that conversation or do you Oberliner want to "return" to Poland? I betting about as much as my neighbors kids want to "return" to Cambodia or in other words nice place to visit but

an Israeli commitment to genuinely share Jerusalem;: yes

a final border based on the '67 lines with minor alterations to allow for annexation of settlement blocs;: hesitant yes strong maybe define minor

a demilitarized Palestinian state: absolutely not every country has a right to self defense





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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:54 AM
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5. Still curious to see what the person who posted this article thinks
But thank you for your response!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:29 PM
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4. I'm not the OP; but yes.
Of course, what I agree with, or even what Brzezinski agrees with, may be somewhat irrelevant, as the ultimate agreement has to be up to the parties concerned, and outsiders cannot totally prejudge the results. But it sounds like a good basis for an agreement.

As I've stated elsewhere, I would actually support right of return for the original refugees; but not for all their descendants.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:13 AM
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2. He's blaming Israel for the oil war in Iraq?
Well, isn't that special.

Why can other nations lobby in what they perceive are their own interests, but Israel cannot?

How's the Saudi lobby, Zbiggy?
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