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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:18 PM
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Soldier who killed peace activist denied appeal
Taysir Hayb tells military committee hearing his appeal that he sent taped apology to family of British peace activist Tom Hurndall, whom Hayb killed while he was shielding Palestinian children from gunfire; however family denies receiving tape

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3572412,00.ht...

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"A special IDF committee has denied an appeal by the soldier Taysir Hayb, who was convicted of killing British photographer and peace activist Tom Hurndall, for early release from prison. Hayb has served half of his sentence, and the committee determined that when he completes two-thirds his case will be reconsidered.

Hurndall, 21, was shot in the head during a protest in Rafah, while acting as a human shield for Palestinian children that had been caught in the crossfire. He lost consciousness following the injury and eventually died from complications of the onset of pneumonia. The soldier was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to eight years in prison.

During a debate that took place in the Haifa Military Court Hayb's attorney, Idan Pesach, asked that the soldier be freed from prison due to good behavior and the success of a rehabilitation program in which he had taken part. The military prosecutor objected to the appeal, claiming it would harm relations with Britain.

Pesach denounced the prosecution's claim and said the case had nothing to do with diplomatic relations. Hayb received the right to speak and apologized for the incident in a trembling voice, saying he understood the grief of the Hurndall family."


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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:49 PM
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1. If this was a case of a Palestinian gunning down an Israeli
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 08:57 PM by subsuelo
His home and/or neighborhood would have been leveled (along with every living thing in or nearby) and the headlines would label him "terrorist".

But since the killer is Israeli, the script changes entirely.

Why is that.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:11 PM
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2. If anyone has an answer... I would like to hear your opinion on that.
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:36 PM
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3. I'm not quite

seeing your point, the Israeli soldier was tried, convicted and is in jail is he not?

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Do either of the Palestinian govts. put the killers of Israelis in jail?

I don't think so, they don't get to go to jail, they don't get arrested they just keep trying until the Israelis make martyrs out of them. Then their mothers rejoice.

'Asked why she had encouraged her sons to carry out attacks, Farhat said that she wished she had 100 sons to sacrifice that way.'

'turned her into a heroic symbol'

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=121533109306 ...


Beats the hell out of me, but then what do I know?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:40 PM
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 03:33 AM
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6. Great. More of the Palestinian society is evil and uncivilised crap...
Reality check. Palestinian society is a society which convicts and tries perpetrators of crimes, and just like Israeli society there's a minority that celebrates those who commit crimes. The problem here is one that happens again and again. You hold Israeli society to a different standard to Palestinian society, ignoring the minority in Israeli society that do celebrate violence, and holding the minority in Palestinian society up as being representative of the entire Palestinian society. It's disgusting when people do what you do when talking about Israelis, and it's equally as disgusting when you do it about Palestinians...
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:22 AM
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7. I have a question for every person that visits this post.
Edited on Sun Jul-27-08 09:54 AM by subsuelo
I would like to know something...

How many of you here agree with the statement about Palestinian society?

How many disagree?

Please, if you have come this far to read this, just post your response even if it's just "I don't know".

Don't be afraid, I just want to know where you stand. (After all that's what this discussion board is all about, isn't it?)

Agree, or disagree, with Vega's description of Palestinian society?

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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:58 PM
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9. I guess it was my post that was deleted
but why don't you tell me what you found disagreeable about it, and we can start there.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 03:16 AM
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5. Not much, clearly....
The point was a mile high and a mile wide so it's hard to believe anyone could miss it, especially when missing the point is used to go off on yet another totally incorrect (Palestinians who kill Israelis have been jailed by the PA, but why worry about facts, hey?) tangent...

The point was that the punishment is NOT the same or even close and the difference is based on whether someone is Israeli or Palestinian....
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:24 AM
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8. Tried convicted and put in jail
Isn't quite the same as dropping bombs on neighborhoods and leveling entire houses, without trials, convictions or jail time.

Also, how many articles in the jpost, cnn, or in any major media outlet have you read describing Tom Hurndall's killer "terrorist"? I would like to see those.
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