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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:07 PM
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Ilan Pappe: I'm not a traitor
Controversial historian Ilan Pappe left Israel last year after his endorsement of an academic boycott of Israel exposed him and his family to death threats. Now a professor in England, Pappe maintains that a cultural boycott on his homeland is the only way to end the occupation

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3516193,00.ht...

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"Last summer, the Pappe family packed its belongings, rented out its spacious house in Israel and moved to Britain. Ever since his support of an academic boycott on Israel's universities became public, historian Ilan Pappe, 54, has felt like public enemy number one. Pappe says he had received death threats by phone almost on a daily basis.

Did it not occur to you that calling for an academic boycott on Israel might incite the public against you?

"I supported the boycott because I believe that without pressure, Israel will not end the occupation. Even before then I reached the conclusion that the peace process enables Israel to stall for time. When in 2003 several international organizations approached me and asked whether I would support the boycott I replied positively.

"I believe that things would change only if Israel receives a strong message that as long as the occupation continues it would not be a legitimate member of the international community, and that until then its academics, doctors and authors would not be welcome. A similar boycott was imposed on South Africa. It took 21 years, but it eventually led to the end of Apartheid."
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:17 PM
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1. That's disgusting that he's gotten death threats n/t
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:42 PM
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6. He'll learn to live with it,
Salmon Rushdie did.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:44 PM
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7. I'm sure he has, but don't you think it's disgusting he got death threats?
After all, we wouldn't hear the end of it if it was Muslims doing death threats...
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:51 PM
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8. Death threats
are NOT aceeptable anywhere.

Was it the Christians who placed the death threats on Rushdie or was it the Jews?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:52 PM
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9. No, they're not acceptable...
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:53 PM by Violet_Crumble
And it's not acceptable to divert attention away from Ilan Pappe and the death threats he received by pointing to Muslims doing it. So what? They're all as bad as each other, but this thread is about Ilan Pappe, not Salmon Rushdie...
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:23 PM
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2. "I don't think there is one moral person in the world that supports what Israel stands for"
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:27 PM by breakaleg
That about says it all. I suppose he's an anti-semite as well.
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:24 PM
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3. Are you saying
that the entire U.S Congress is immoral?

LOL
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:26 PM
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4. Did you read my post at all?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:31 PM
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5. Did you bother reading the article? Don't you think the death threats are disgusting? n/t
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:59 PM
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10. It is saddening that Prof Pappe and his family
have had to endure threats and and an unofficial exile, I do not think that a boycott of any kind would be of any use in this case. First because any type of boycott is in fact "collective punishment", the very thing Israel is "accused" of doing to the Palestinians, and IMHO would be pounced on as such.



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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:39 PM
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11. I read
somewhere he is the most hated Israeli on the planet but I don't remember where.
Any clues, have you heard such comments?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:41 PM
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12. Try Ha'aretz talkback. That's where all the hatefilled idiots reside n/t
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:48 PM
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13. I'd prefer
something 'fair and balanced' not hate-filled.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:49 PM
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14. Can't help you there...
People who tend to be 'fair and balanced' don't go around reviling and hating Ilan Pappe...
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:00 PM
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16. Thanks anyway,
there's always good old google.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:50 PM
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15. No I have not n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 10:51 PM by azurnoir
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