Hamas rejects Sharm e-Sheikh summit

[oberliner]

Deposed Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas on Sunday rejected a summit planned for Egypt with Israeli and Arab leaders, saying only "resistance" would produce results for his people.

Speaking in Gaza, which his movement overran earlier this month, defeating the forces allied with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, Haniyeh said, "the Americans won't give anything. Israel won't give us anything. Our land, our nation will not come back to us except with steadfastness and resistance," a code word for attacks against Israel. He called any hopes generated by the summit a "mirage" and "illusions."

On Monday, Abbas and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert are to join the president of Egypt and king of Jordan for a summit meeting meant to boost Abbas in his battle with Hamas,

Abbas fired the Hamas-led Cabinet after the Islamists took control of Gaza, replacing it with a Cabinet made up of moderates and experts.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1182409626290&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

[acmavm]

1. Stupid bastard. I think what he really means is that if that summit goes

through and progress is made, he becomes irrelevant.

[rayofreason]

2. Relevant, irrelevant, doesn't matter

All that matters to Hamas is continue to try to kill as many Israelis as possible in the hopes that this somehow will lead to the total destuction of Israel and the expulsion of the Jews from the Middle East.

[ShortnFiery]

4. Hamas isn't going anywhere and the people elected many of them ...

to "shut out" all of HAMAS will end up figuratively blowing-up in the USA, EU and Israel's faces.

The people know how seriously corrupt Fatah is - that's partially why HAMAS won the election. :shrug:

[acmavm]

9. Shut out Hamas? Excuse me?????

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Deposed Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas on Sunday rejected a summit planned for Egypt with Israeli and Arab leaders, saying only "resistance" would produce results for his people.
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The most relevant and telling part of this whole story is the first paragraph. To condemn an attempt at talks saying only 'resistance' would produce results is bullshit. I am 100% anti-Zionist, but I am also 100% anti- shit like this as well. And so should all civilized people be who hope for peace in the Middle East.

[oberliner]

10. Hamas is a terrorist organization

They've just recently led a violent takeover, kicking out their governing coalition partners and murdering numerous innocent civilians in the process.

[ShortnFiery]

12. That's because we (hint hint WP articles) were covertly arming Fatah to take over Gaza. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

3. Wait! It is my understanding from Al Jazeera that neither HAMAS nor Haniya are invited?

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3E7FFD11-C615-4D61-B91E-E17E0C7A2B2E.htm

Haniya was removed from his post by Mahmoud Abbas, the president and Fatah leader, after days of intense factional fighting in the Gaza Strip.

The Hamas-led unity government had been under an economic boycott, with Israel withholding tax revenue and the US and Europe holding back aid.

Haniya said: "The Americans won't give anything. Israel won't give us anything. Our land, our nation will not come back to us except with steadfastness and resistance." He called any hopes generated by the summit a "mirage" and "illusions." Haniya called Israel's release of the tax money "financial bribery" and "political blackmail" aimed at "deepening the crisis and divisions" between Fatah and Hamas.

[oberliner]

6. Your understanding from Al Jazeera?

You weren't able to get that understanding from the OP which has exactly the same text you cited included in the posted article?

[ShortnFiery]

7. No, the FULL story was not conveyed. Hamas and their PM can't go because they've been shut out. n/t

[oberliner]

8. Can you elaborate on the differences?

Your citation from Al-Jazeera:

Haniya was removed from his post by Mahmoud Abbas, the president and Fatah leader, after days of intense factional fighting in the Gaza Strip.

From the JPost article in the OP:

Abbas fired the Hamas-led Cabinet after the Islamists took control of Gaza, replacing it with a Cabinet made up of moderates and experts.

Your citation from Al-Jazeera:

Haniya said: "The Americans won't give anything. Israel won't give us anything. Our land, our nation will not come back to us except with steadfastness and resistance." He called any hopes generated by the summit a "mirage" and "illusions." Haniya called Israel's release of the tax money "financial bribery" and "political blackmail" aimed at "deepening the crisis and divisions" between Fatah and Hamas.

From the JPost article in the OP:

Haniyeh said, "the Americans won't give anything. Israel won't give us anything. Our land, our nation will not come back to us except with steadfastness and resistance," a code word for attacks against Israel. He called any hopes generated by the summit a "mirage" and "illusions."

and also

Commenting on Israel's decision to free up hundreds of millions of tax money it collected for the Palestinians but refused to hand over as long as Hamas was in power, Haniyeh said some of it must be directed to Gaza. "The money must stay away from political extortion and must reach all Palestinian people without discrimination or differentiation," he said.

Both articles give exactly the same impression of the situation using almost exactly the same text.

[ShortnFiery]

11. The SPIN is wrong - we both know that. Anyone would decry the meeting if they were NOT invited.

I'm encouraging multiple sources because OFTEN (this was in the JP but not brought out in the headline in either them or al jazeera) we glean a little different angle - the truth lies somewhere in between. :shrug:

[oberliner]

13. I agree that it is good to get a variety of sources

However, in this case, I don't think that the two articles are spinning this in a particularly different way.

The headline in Al-Jazeera is:

Haniya rejects Israel-Arab summit

The JPost headline is:

Hamas rejects Sharm e-Sheikh summit

The JPost article comes verbatim from the Associated Press.

All international agreements between the Palestinian Authority and Israel have always been conducted on the Palestinian side by the PA President. Hamas has said in the past that they would abide by any such agreements, now they are saying they will not. This is the significant difference I believe.

[Scurrilous]

5. The Sharm curse

Past experience shows regional summits in Sharm el-Sheikh destined to fail

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3416587,00.html

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"On Monday, Prime Minister Olmert will be heading to the "Fear Summit" in Sharm el-Sheikh, to meet with three more frightened leaders: Mubarak, Abdullah, and Abbas. Ahead of the trip, Olmert declared a "new beginning" in Israeli-Palestinian relations. Yet if Olmert wishes to turn a new leaf, Sharm is not the place for it. No Israeli-Arab summit in Sharm el-Sheikh has ever produced any results."

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[pelsar]

15. its not so much for he zionists...

but they sure do expose the hypocrisy of the "left" the "human rights groups"

[The Magistrate]

16. Do, Please, Elaborate, Sir

"Enquiring minds want to know."

[Lithos]

17. You have my full attention here

Please do tell...