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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 06:58 PM
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Settler to activist in Hebron: Go to Auschwitz
VIDEO - "The settler spat at me, called me a Nazi and other things I couldn't understand. She wouldn't let me move. She pushed me and then a young boy also started pushing me."

This report was received by Ynet from an international activist, Anna Maria, a 57-year-old from Denmark, who tried to protect two Palestinian children who were being bullied by eight children from the Jewish settlement in Hebron.

The activist who went out to break up the fight said that IDF soldiers separated the children, but then an older settler came out and attacked the activists. Maria phoned an Israeli friend who called the police.

Video & full story available here:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3378589,00.html

Also check out
http://www.telrumeidaproject.org/
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:08 PM
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1. The lady is lucky to come out alive.
I do not think that the settlers are admired by most Israeli's
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:45 PM
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3. Not the ones in Hebron.
They're not supported by the government at all.

Thing is, while they're among the most militant, they're also not squatters.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:14 PM
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4. If they aren't supported by the government then why does the IDF stand by and watch as they
wreck havoc on the local Palestinians? I've seen them, on tape.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:56 PM
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2. The settlers are the largest impediment to peace in the middle east. There won't be peace until a
strong Israeli leader emerges who has the guts to cut them loose.
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:42 AM
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5. Do you really honestly believe that?
You mean the settlers are worse than Hizbollah? Worse than Hamas? Worse than all the terrorist kidnappers, murderers, robbers and money launderers?

How do you explain the fact that the PLO was formed in 1964 when the word settler meant nothing more than a pioneer living in the American mid-West? How come the Arabs attacked Israel in 1948 and 1967 when there were no settlers or settlements, when those territories belonged to Jordan and Egypt? How do you explain the fact that Hamas, Hizbollah, Iran and all those other groups don't swear to "wipe settlers off the face of the earth", don't mention "settlers" or "settlements" in their charters. All they talk about is Israel - wiping Israel out, destroying Israel, not recognizing Israel.

I think you need to get some perspective here.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:57 AM
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6. Yes. n/t
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 01:13 AM
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7. I wrote it. It is my post. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 02:19 AM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:39 AM
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9. He/she didn't say that
the worst impediment to peace is NOT the same as saying "the vilest of vermin to ever inhabit the face of the earth". Dishonest much? And breakaleg and often disagree strongly on these threads, but in this I concur: The Settlers are the worst impediment to peace. Frankly, I think that's a no brainer.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:08 AM
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10. *We*?? Most of us are capable of reading and know Breakaleg never said that...
I'm interested to know what you think of the OP, especially of that habit the extremist settlers have of invoking memories of the Holocaust in such a disgusting way...
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:54 AM
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13. Invoking memories of the Holocaust
Have you had a chance to watch the video?

I do not understand what the person means by saying "Go to Auschwitz".

What do you think the implication is of that remark?

Is it something like - "You do not understand our situation unless you have been to Auschwitz" ?

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:57 PM
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17. Ask the settler. But judging by settler graffiti and other comments, she wants the human rights
worker to die in the ovens. They want the internationals there protecting Palestinians to meet the same fate they wish for Palestinians.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3356741,00.html

Settlers defile Palestinian graves under IDF watch

Jewish settlers desecrate graves, wreak havoc in Palestinian village


"Death to Arabs" was just one of the hateful messages left by Jewish settlers on Muslim graves after a destructive rampage on a cemetery and village near Nablus Tuesday.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:04 AM
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20. I've watched the video...
And it was pretty clear to me that the remark most likely meant she was comparing the situation of the Hebron settlers to Auschwitz, which is why I find it so disgusting. If anyone needs to visit Auschwitz, it's that settler woman so hopefully it could seep into her thick skull how it is abusing the memory of the Holocaust to try to compare a bunch of violent religious zealots with the victims who died at Auschwitz...
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 08:12 AM
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11. This attempt of yours to cloud the issue is pathetic. Anyone who can read can see that. nt
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:49 AM
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12. They were cut loose in Gaza
Every single settler who had been living in Gaza has been evacuated (in some cases forcibly) by the Israeli government.

That took some political courage, didn't it?


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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:52 AM
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14. and doubled the settlement construction plans in the West Bank
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 11:01 AM by Douglas Carpenter
link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/27/AR2005082701113_pf.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/26/news/mideast.php

Including a whole new settlement in the Jordan Valley. That's a long, long way from the Green Line. link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6210721.stm

It would be a lot more politically bold to remove 100,000 settlers from the West Bank as opposed to 8000 in Gaza to make the minimum requirements for a peace settlement based on the Geneva Initiative

http://www.geneva-accord.org/Accord.aspx?FolderID=33&lang=en

There are approximately 450,000 Jewish settlers in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem all completely illegal under international law.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:05 AM
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21. Good point n/t
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:04 PM
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16. What percentage are "re-settled" in the WB? You gotta be kidding me! n/t
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:01 PM
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18. Cut loose? Man, if i were cut loose like that, i'd be rich!
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/792340.html

Gov't paid illegal Gaza settlers millions in compensation

The families have not yet received full compensation, but they have received advances of as much as NIS 600,000 (over $100,000) per family. In some cases, these advances appear to be higher
than the full sum to which the families are entitled.

Like a golden parachute...

Lucky for Israeli people the US gives so much to Israel.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:03 PM
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19. The "courage" was in allowing the illegal settlements in the first place
Because it flew in the fact of international law. I think a better word would be Chutzpah.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:03 PM
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15. ITA. Our country doesn't even have the guts to stand behind our stated position on settlements. nt
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