U.S. Christian organizations back Lebanon operation

[Englander]

By Daphna Berman

Jewish and pro-Israel Christian groups in both Israel and the United States voiced a chorus of support for the Israel Defense Forces' actions yesterday, the second day of fighting on the northern border.

"This was certainly an unprovoked attack and Israel has every right to go in and pound them," said Ray Sanders, executive director of Christian Friends of Israel. "It needs to be made very clear that what they (Hezbollah) have done is an act of injustice and Israel has every right to defend herself."

Other pro-Israel Christian groups joined in the chorus of support.

Evangelist radio host Earl Cox of Front Page Jerusalem Global Radio Network called the Hezbollah incursions "barbaric acts of terrorism" and called on his following to contact their representatives to "demand" that the United Nations Security Council "take action in support of Israel."

The International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem said that "Israel has a right to defend herself" and voiced support for the country's measures to ensure "peace and security in the region."

More at;
Haaretz

[MikeNearMcChord]

1. It will be very intersting on Judgement Day

when some of these "Christians" try to defend the murder of innocent civilians. But then as Jesus said, they condemn themselves with their own words.

[Lefty48197]

3. I don't expect Christians to defend Hamas bombing pizza parlors

Is that what you're talking about? Or perhaps you're talking about the city buses that Hamas regularly sends suicide bombers into. Do you expect Christians to defend that? How about the Hamas missiles that randomly fall into Israeli cities, without a military target in sight?

[IndianaGreen]

19. Or defend the displacement of 500,000 civilians and bombing of Beirut

Israeli bombs have rained on Lebanon's hospitals, gas stations, lighthouse, grain silos, fleeing civilians, relief convoys, milk processing facilities, etc.

Bombing of Beirut for "Hamas bombing pizza parlors" makes as much sense as the US invading Iraq for 9-11.

[IntiRaymi]

6. Calling them christians is a stretch.

My bet is that, in the USA, perhaps 1% of those labelling themselves christian are actually christian. The other 99% are something else (indeed).
My impression is that it takes a level of moral education that too few are able to achieve to become a true christian, in the sense of the simple tenets that Jesus laid out in the bible, which is to love your neighbor as you would love yourself.
Btw, I am an atheist.

[DFLer4edu]

2. Cristian right is bonkers when it comes to Middle East

they really do believe that, thank god, this war means the end of the world, the rapture, the returning of Jesus Christ. My favorite thing to ask those who believe in such a rapture is what their actions would mean if they were wrong. They'll admit that it would really screw the world up, but since they think they're right they don't really care. God bless these lunatics.

[Howardx]

4. ...

[JuniperLea]

5. My Christian Missionary cousins are in Poryia, south of Tiberius

Extreme fundies as you might surmise by their chosen path in life... I'm sure they think they have front row seats to the Armageddon... and my Aunt, here in the states, isn't returning my phone calls. She was always my "other mother" and we've been very close all my life. She recently found out that I do not support her precious Bush and I am pro-peace. I told her that the Prince of Peace would not support warmongering and hatred. I'm sure she thinks I'm in league with Satan.

Meanwhile, I'm worried sick about my cousins... and I can't get one word of news. We grew up together, more like sisters than cousins. I will always love her regardless of our differences of opinion. I guess my aunt can't wrap her mind around such a Christian concept. I'm sure her pastor has told her to avoid such people as me... you know, the peacemakers... even though her bible told us we'd be blessed for our efforts.


:cry:

PS - Howardx left himself logged on... post above was accidental... sorry Howard! You have an empty post there...

[barb162]

7. "...Israel has every right to defend herself" Well, yeah!

Now if Israel could easily find the rocket stashes and militants shooting them, etc., that would be very nice.

[Englander]

9. Was that a 'yes, I agree with everything these orgs say'?

The idea that Israel *doesn't* have the 'right to defend herself' is an absurd strawman, the groups
listed in this article are unquestioning supporters of Israel, & they don't have a problem with the
idf/iaf/navy killing innocents, or foreign nationals, or committing war crimes, in the name of
'self-defense'. 'Right to defend herself' said by these groups means 'doing whatever it so pleases'.

The groups mentioned in the article are fundamentalist xtians, ie bushbots. Why would anyone agree
with them, particularly on a forum such as DU?

[Englander]

11. Thought so. n/t

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[Englander]

13. 'Thought so' = Yes, I thought this question would be ignored.

I might as well, really, since it certainly looks like any questions asked are either completely
ignored, or reversed, or misrepresented, so self-answering any questions (which didn't happen in
this instance) might as well be the best course of action.

[DemocraticLeft]

15. After reading a lot of your posts one comes to the realization...

You say the same thing in EVERY post..

1.red herring
2.ad hominum
3.strawman

and then you ask irrellavent questions and make snide anti semitic and homophobic and racist remarks...

Too much Scotch?

[DemocraticLeft]

16. What is your obsession here with the tribe?

Your application to med school also was rejected many years ago?

[madeline_con]

10. It seems to me, if Massad is a world-class intelligence outfit...

all the collateral damage is unnecessary. They'd be able to target enemy combatabts, not the old ladies I see staggering out of the rubble.

[pelsar]

17. guess you dont know much about munitions....or MI....or physics

Hard to believe i have to explain such a simple fact:

when a rocket is hidden in an apt building or between them.....not much choice but sending a bomb...and since the rockets themselves have explosives, they tend to blow up when hit by a bomb.

the explosions tends to wreck the buildings next to it.....or dont israeli bombs adhear to the laws of physics? (or should mossad operatives gone to the 10,000 missles and like in the movies, sneak in at night, open up the section that has the wires and cut the proper one "just in time" for all of those missles, in bunkers, in homes, within army camps, and "get the girl and return home...)

I guess mossad is simply not a world -class intelligence outfit......

[DemocraticLeft]

18. What is `Massad`

Massada?

[amandabeech]

8. There are non-fundie Christian Lebanese.

They constitute at least 35% of the population. Have their areas been hit?

I suppose the U.S. to-be-raptured fundies don't really call them Chritian, so I guess that their lives don't count, either.

[regnaD kciN]

14. A more honest title to that article should be...

U.S. fundamentalist organizations back Lebanon operation.

Not that the fundies really care about what happens to Israel -- it's just that they need Israel to hold on to all the occupied territories, otherwise Armageddon won't happen soon, and we won't get Jesus coming in glory to send all the Jews and Muslims to hell.

:crazy:

[McCamy Taylor]

20. Why is the Pope silent? Lebanese are Catholics.