How many columbines...

[SBWCP]

Will it take for people to finally turn in their guns? You want stats to back up the gun-ban argument? Here:

100% of kids killed by guns would be alive if there was no guns.

Seriously, you can put any spin you want on it. If we banned all guns, there would be people alive today which are dead. You say ilegal guns is the problem, but people die from legal guns too. So by not supporting a gun ban, you support the death of those people. Also, all guns start out legal.

[Worst Username Ever]

1. Oh boy, here we go again.

[billbuckhead]

2. Probably not 100% but 90%

America's weak and weakly enforced gun laws kills way more Americans than Al Queda.

[SBWCP]

3. EXACTLY!

Seriously, I want one pro gunner to make a logical argument against the fact that legal guns have killed people.

[Remmah]

6. I'll offer a logical arguement.

I'll offer a logical argument as soon as a non-emotional questioned is asked by an unbias open mind. If a mind is made up going into a discussion then there can be only one outcome.

My firearms at home are all 100% bonified legal and have killed no one, they nor their owner have never considered any criminal intent.

[forgethell]

17. Sure legal guns have been

used to kill people, but that is not a reason to outlaw them. They h ave also been used to save people's lives.

Guns can be used to kill, so can knives, scissors, boiling water, poison, human hands, ropes. Automobiles kill more than guns, except maybe in time of war.

Nobody forces you to have a gun, but I want one for sport and defense.

[Flagius]

4. And...

If we banned all knives people would be alive today who are dead, and if we banned alcohol people would be alive today who are dead, and if we banned cars people would be alive today who are dead...

[SBWCP]

5. So...

Just because we can't save everyone we shouldn't save some? Great logic. By that logic, doctors should stop practicing medicine, since they can't save everyone. Saying "Other things kill too!" Is not an excuse to allow guns to exist.

[Flagius]

7. No

I'm simply stating that people who want to kill other people will find a way to do it. The problem with you people, is that you want to blame an inanimate object, or a piece of entertainment, for all of societies ills, instead of focusing on the real issues of poverty and mental illness which are 2 leading factors in all violent crime. We also have something in this country called the 2nd Amendment, its in something called the Bill of Rights. You start f*cking around with that, and you might as well be another freeper.

[forgethell]

18. Yes, even if we could

save everyone. Guns are our last protection against tyrants. "God may have made men, but Sam Colt made them equal"

[Flagius]

19. Yeah...

Because a couple of shotguns and semi automatic pistols are going to stop an M1 and a B2 bomber in their tracks.

[goju]

8. How many drownings...

Will it take for people to ... get rid of their swimming pools? 100% of kids killed in pools would be alive if there were no pools.

Seriously, you can take this as far as you want, if you want.

[Remmah]

23. How many toddlers have drown in 5 gal buckets and toilets?

If they banned toilets we wouldn't have a pot to pi$$ in!

[Romulus]

9. right on, brother

If a few people and their families are killed because they didn't have a gun to protect themselves, well that's just too bad.

Society is willing to sacrifice those few lives to protect the greater lives of others who would be shot if guns were available.

[SBWCP]

10. If you don't have a gun...

It doesn't mean you'll get killed.

When a man breaks into your house, HIDE! Sure, it's not the manly thing to do, but you won't die.

If a guy tries to rob you, give him your money. You'll be down a few bucks, but ALIVE!

So, how does not having a gun equal death?

[Flagius]

12. Wow...

Naive much? You have the right to protect your person and property. If someone breaks into my house I'm going to use all legal means of getting them to exit, if that includes shooting them, then it means shooting them. I'm not going to sacrifice my wellbeing so that you can feel a tiny bit safer.

[goju]

13. If i didnt have a gun

I would be down a few "bucks" :)

Why you trying to take food off my table?

[DonP]

11. Remarkable and original idea! Get started on that right now.

Show some initiative and lead by example, instead of relying on government LEO's to do the job for you. (They have guns too and probably can't be trusted anyway.)

Start by going to all your neighbors, knocking on their doors and if they admit they have a gun in their home tell them they are responsible for murders throughout the country.

Then turn in all the guns they give you to the local authorities

With between 30 plus million gun owners and between 60 to 100 million guns out there you better get started.

I'll wait here to see how it goes for you.

[enfield collector]

14. ah so it's for the cheeeeldren.

[forgethell]

15. Maybe not

100% would be alive?? Maybe not. Maybe they would have been knifed, had an accident, hung themselves. Maybe they wold have died of old age by now.

Maybe if they had had a gun, it would have been another kid, aka, "the criminal" who would have been dead.

God, what passes for logic.

[SBWCP]

16. If guns are so good...

Why is it in every movie out there they're used for murder? Art is a reflection of reality!

[FatSlob]

21. Nice bait, what type of motor are you using?

[Flagius]

22. Yeah...

You never see anyone hunting with a gun, or target, skeet or, competition shooting. You never see police using guns in self defense, or the military using guns to fulfill a mission. Get over yourself.

[BigDaddyCaine]

25. if not having guns is sooooo good

then why were all the jews rounded up and killed in WWII?

[FatSlob]

20. Note: Columbine happened at a place that banned guns.

Every mass shooting I can think of was at a place that banned guns.

[BigDaddyCaine]

24. obvious flamebait...but ill bite

Seriously, you can put any spin you want on it. If we banned all guns, there would be people dead today which would be alive. You say legal guns are the problem but people die with illegal guns too. So by supporting a gun ban, you support the death of people who use guns to survive. Also, not all guns start out legal.

[UpsideDownFlag]

26. word to the wise: I tried this for like 2 months.

it doesn't work, starts flamefests, and generally isn't cool.

( I agree with you in spirit, but this isn't the place to try and convert RKBA democrats)

[Wickerman]

27. locking: Flamebait