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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:41 PM Original message |
Soon, Osama's Guys Can Buy American Again |
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LondonAmerican (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. If guns are outlawed only the police will have guns... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. If gun nuts were outlawed |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Referring to the UK or the US? |
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LondonAmerican (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Guns are pretty much outlawed here (UK) |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Can't wait until Pert sees this... |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
37. Sorry mate.... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Amazing how often the "UK bloodbath" pops up |
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LibLabUK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Hmm.. check the stats before making sweeping statements. |
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Liberal Classic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. More grist for the millstone |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yeah, it's amazing |
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enfield collector (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. this is a lie. only if they want to go through the NFA approval |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Not to mention |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Too TOO funny... |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. More broken record and misinformation |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Gee, fescue |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Yes, a full auto weapon smuggled illegally into the country |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
79. I can't let THAT one slide |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
127. It is nearly impossible to legally buy a Class III weapon. |
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john Q2 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
80. The AWB did not stop the sale of any rifles |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Then there's no reason not to renew it, is there? |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #83 |
104. How do you "strengthen" the ban? |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Gee, op, the two bills in Congress are a good start... |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. The only "strengthening" is the magazine location. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Gee, op.... |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Don't let facts get in your way. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I stand on facts...and don't let gun nut horseshit get in MY way |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Ad hominems are easier than actual critical analysis. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. And horseshit from the stentorian not even worth thinking about |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. If you don't care what I think, stop responding to my posts. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Gee, and yet I keep posting facts |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. The photo of Senator Feinstein tells the truth |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Notice how he never actually addressed the "strengthening" of the ban. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Gee, op...why do you suppose the gun lobby is fighting it so hard? |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Maybe they are fighting the bill... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Or maybe |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. What makes a rifle "military style"? |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Cry me a fucking river, op... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Spin, spin, and more spin |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. How exactly... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Gee, beev... |
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john Q2 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
129. Well Sarah Brady agrees |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. You've fallen for desperate propaganda |
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john Q2 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 11:09 PM Original message |
But then again there is no reason to renew it. |
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john Q2 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
130. But then again there is no reason to renew it. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Does this author also work for the examiner? |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Gee, most people call those facts |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. Rolling my eyes |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Gee, fescue... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Deleted message |
MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Gee, fescue, I'm not the one ignoring reality... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Deleted message |
billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It's a fact that the USA has the highest murder rate of advanced nations |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You may call Civil rights worthless. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Makes the point eloquently |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
47. What point? |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Not me, fescue... |
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FatSlob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Back to sex references again? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Straw Man Fallacy |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
22. Terrorist Rifle Attack vs Terrorist Box Cutter Attack. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Gee, there's gun nut "logic" or whatever the hell it is... |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. The point is that terrorists are creative. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. No, the point is that there's no reason to have these weapons |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. People enjoy shooting them safely and legally. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Let em shoot something else |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. False premise |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Safely used firearms don't endager the public. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Yeah, and pinheads with assault weapons are a menace |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. Follow up a caustic ad hominem attack with a more caustic one. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Always happy to oblige |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. How’s the gun legislation in the Philippines going, Bench? |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Columbine Father Challenges Cheney On Assault Weapons |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Gee, Bench |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Columbine Father Challenges Cheney On Assault Weapons |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. "Assault weapons" used in less than 3% of gun crimes. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Proof the AWB made an impact |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Irrelevant statistic |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. That statistic is on "assault weapons" called out by name in the AWB. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Cry me a fucking river.... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. You are judged in part by the company you keep |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
23. The AK-47 isn't an American rifle. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Do you want to pretend Americans don't SELL them, op? |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. If they aren't American citizens... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Legal resident aliens can by regular firearms as well |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Gun show loophole |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Machineguns cannot be transferred casually at gun shows |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
32. Contemptible garbage propaganda with no merit whatsoever |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
41. So that’s why they ended using box cutters! |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Why not let the gun industry cash in, eh, Mina? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. There you go again with the automatic weapons charade |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Braking news!!!!!! Terrorists training camps all over USA!!!! On CNN now!! |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. They are capable of spray-cutting, too! |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Yeah, there's that gun nut "logic" or whatever the hell it is... |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. I’m with you on this one, Bench! |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 08:27 AM Response to Reply #77 |
99. No joke...they are using the term "assault pistol" now. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
42. One more conspicuous lie in the CSGV piece |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Gotta question Slack |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Nope |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Are you saying |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Yes, that is what he is saying. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Brand new mags for sale |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. They're legal if they were manufactured before the ban. (nt) |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Amazing |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Inaccurate analysis of the situation |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The mags i just looked at a Western Corp were new not surplus. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Yes, manufactured before September 1994 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Affirmative |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
48. Count the lies at csgv.org. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Excellent summary! |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Nary a one... |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I only referred to the truth there: |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Nope... |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Safety rules apply to "prop guns" too...even though it wasn't a prop. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Tell it to the stentorian |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Hang it up, MrBenchley |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Everyone take careful notice |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Yes, count the lies at the stentorian... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. The careful reader will note that MrBenchley proves himself wrong |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. I've been to the veterinarian and back |
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minavasht (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Evidently HE is discussing the AWB in Philippines… |
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MrSandman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
97. IIRC, These are illegal also... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Another interesting thing about that Uzi specifications table |
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MrSandman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
123. Am I wrong about the open bolt? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. No new semiauto firearms can be made with open-bolt actions |
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FeebMaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. The only way to build a semi-auto mg-34 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-04 08:38 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. That agrees with my interpretation of the regulations |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
86. More CSGV lies... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. The CSGV is 100% correct |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Ignore the quotes from the Founders on individual gun ownership. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Gee, op. don't let facts get in your way... |
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OpSomBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. You argue the intent of the Founders... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. No, op, I point out what the courts say |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #93 |
101. And you started this thread based on 100% phony data from CSGV |
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