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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 01:10 PM
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Neal Boortz lets the GOP/NRA legislative agenda cat out of the bag
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 01:13 PM by jpak
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/16/ed-schultz-nea...

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BOORTZ: We got too damn many urban thugs, yo, ruining the quality of life for everybody. And I'll tell you what it's gonna take. You people, you are - you need to have a gun. You need to have training. You need to know how to use that gun. You need to get a permit to carry that gun. And you do in fact need to carry that gun and we need to see some dead thugs littering the landscape in Atlanta.

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I was perplexed for a long time about the rationale behind the rash of really stupid GOP-Clingon gun bills that have popped up everywhere the GOP dominates a state legislature....

Now I know

yup
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 01:22 PM
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 01:25 PM
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2. Exactly. This isn't about "guns" - it's about race
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 02:36 PM
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6. How often have you read recent news reports of anyone with a concealed carry permit ...
coming into a city to hunt criminals?

Many years ago white racists did come into the cities to harass blacks.


Negroes with Guns America Dark History of brutal, sadistic violence against African Americans
Submitted by Stanley Scott on July 17, 2009 - 11:55am

The year was 1957. Monroe, N.C., was a rigidly segregated town where all levels of white society and government were dedicated to preserving the racial status quo. Blacks who dared to speak out were subject to brutal, sadistic violence.

It was common practice for convoys of Ku Klux Klan members to drive through black neighborhoods shooting in all directions. A black physician who owned a nice brick house on a main road was a frequent target of racist anger.

In the summer of 1957, a Klan motorcade sent to attack the house was met by a disciplined volley of rifle fire from a group of black veterans and NRA members led by civil rights activist Robert F. Williams.

Using military-surplus rifles from behind sandbag fortifications, the small band of freedom fighters drove off the larger force of Klansmen with no casualties reported on either side.
http://jacksonville.com/interact/blog/stanley_scott/200...



Deacons for Defense and Justice

The Deacons for Defense and Justice is an armed self defense African American civil rights organization in the U.S. Southern states during the 1960s. Historically, the organization practiced self-defense methods in the face of racist oppression that was carried out by Jim Crow Laws; local and state agencies; and the Ku Klux Klan. Many times the Deacons are not written about or cited when speaking of the Civil Rights Movement because their agenda of self-defense, in this case, using violence (if necessary) did not fit the image of strict non-violence agenda that leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. preached about the Civil Rights Movement. Yet, there has been a recent debate over the crucial role the Deacons and other lesser known militant organizations played on local levels throughout much of the rural South. Many times in these areas the Federal government did not always have complete control over to enforce such laws like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or Voting Rights Act of 1965.

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In many areas of the Deep South the federal and state governments had no control of local authorities and groups that did not want to follow the laws enacted. One of these groups, the Ku Klux Klan, is one of the most well-known and widely publicized organizations that openly practiced acts of violence and segregation based on race. As part of their strategy to intimidate this community , the Ku Klux Klan initiated a campaign of terror that included harassment, the burning of crosses on the lawns of African-American voters, the destruction (by fire) of five churches, a Masonic hall, and a Baptist center, and murder.<4> These incidents were not isolated but a significant amount of this victimization of African-Americans occurred in Jonesboro, Louisiana in 1964.

Not wanting to fall victims any longer to groups like the Klan the African-American community felt that a response of action was crucial in curbing this terrorism because of the lack of support and protection by State and Federal authorities. A group of African American men in Jonesboro, Louisiana led by Earnest "Chilly Willy" Thomas and Frederick Douglas Kirkpatrick founded the group in November of 1964 to protect civil rights workers, their communities and their families, against the violence of the Ku Klux Klan. Most of the Deacons were war veterans with combat experience from the Korean War and World War II. The Jonesboro chapter later organized a Deacons chapter in Bogalusa, Louisiana led by Charles Sims, A.Z. Young and Robert Hicks. The Jonesboro chapter initiated a regional organizing campaign and eventually formed 21 chapters in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. The militant Deacons' confrontation with the Klan in Bogalusa was instrumental in forcing the federal government to invervene on behalf of the black community and enforce the 1964 Civil Rights Act and neutralize the Klan.

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Roy Innis has said of the Deacons that they "forced the Klan to re-evaluate their actions and often change their undergarments", according to Ken Blackwell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacons_for_Defense_and_Ju...


Gun control has racist roots.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 01:29 PM
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3. I thought it was a wet kiss to Brady and company
and before you try to pin the racist tag because of what some shock jock pulled out of his ass, you have to be kidding.

By the way, do you have any idea what the history of these laws are that you are now defending? Many of them, especially in the south, where written by the Scott Walkers and Trent Lotts of that time for the benefit of the Pinkertons and the Klan.

The only reason the GOP pushes for them to day is because it serves their purpose too. They latched on it when urban liberals started looking at blue collar and rural people as uncivilized and uneducated thugs that needed to be civilized.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 01:52 PM
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4. Neal Boortz needs to learn that people who legally carry concealed ...
do not consider themselves vigilantes or cops.

For example, I have no desire to strap on my gun, conceal it and go hunting "thugs." All I want is the ability to defend myself with the most effective self defense tool currently made if a "thug" attacks me or someone I love with the intention of causing serious injury or death.

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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 02:26 PM
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5. This is just the Boortz agenda. Unless you see words in this article that I don't.


:shrug:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 02:51 PM
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8. It is the GOP/NRA agenda - guns everywhere all the time, Castle Laws, the whole 9-yards
GOP morans fear African-Americans and cling to their guns

yup
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 03:10 PM
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9. You're an imagainative fear mongerer, jpak.

Even if there are some folks who do think that, Democrats and liberals included, you are still ineffective at using them to promote unreasonable gun control laws. I love when you post because you are a caricature of the hyperbolic gun control activists. You're the reason ridiculous gun control is failing among Democrats.

Carry on.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 02:47 PM
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7. Safety first.....that's all one should concerning CC/OC. Your words can be used against you...
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 02:50 PM by ileus
if you ever do find yourself needing to use a firearm in SD. Neal is being a dumbass making this kind of statement...

He's right you need a gun, need to be trained to use the gun, have the proper permits, and carry the gun. What he doesn't mention is the most important element of carrying a gun, use your brain. Don't put yourself in harms way for the fun of it, be aware of your surroundings, and always think before even considering pulling your firearm. If it's not life or death extract yourself from the situation. The last thing you ever want to do is fire your firearm...
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discntnt_irny_srcsm Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:06 PM
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12. rule #26:
"Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation."

- You are "on-target".
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 03:16 PM
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10. Neal Boortz = Faux Libertarian Moron Who Only Speaks for Himself.
He's not so much a racist as he is a classist. He can't stand the fact that there are poor people, wants to wipe them all off the face of the earth.

That dipshit thinks rich people like himself could freely live the lives they live without all the lower classes making his lifestyle even possible. He needs to get out of his gated community and try living on the streets for a week. He wouldn't last 2 days...
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 03:45 PM
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11. Gunners here post of need to defend themselves from thugs, "ganstas", "gang bangers" - same thing.

As to gun promoting Boortz -- he got his start writing speeches for Georgia's last openly segregationist governor and has been a racist radio personality for 35+ years in Atlanta. Georgia's racist governor -- Lester Maddox -- made his "fame" chasing Blacks out of his restaurant with guns and baseball bats.
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discntnt_irny_srcsm Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:08 PM
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13. File this under "T" for trivia. No one listens to Boortz. n/t
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 06:57 PM
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14. Lots of gunners think like him.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:04 PM
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15. a lot of antis think like him, just have a different "other"
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:08 PM
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16. "Antis" ain't for shooting people. Gunners don't care as long as they have access to friggin guns.
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 07:09 PM by Hoyt

The majority of gun owners think like the racist TBaggers who paraded around with their guns when Obama was elected wanting "their country back."
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:35 PM
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17. and you base this one what?
Did you take a poll, or just broad brush strokes using your ass as an ink well? Why do antis lose their critical thinking skills, like the guy that did not understand that you can not buy machine guns at Wal Mart or gun shows no matter what some Al Qaida asshole says?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:41 PM
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18. The majority of toters and obsessed gun owners are right wing. Prove that wrong if you can.
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discntnt_irny_srcsm Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:00 PM
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19. Possibly true...
...questionably relevant.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:09 PM
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20. Can't prove a negative, besides
there is a distinct difference between conservative and right wing. Even if that is true, so how is that relevant? What does it have to do with us? Guilt by association is not my thing.
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discntnt_irny_srcsm Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:42 PM
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22. If you remove:
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 08:52 PM by discntnt_irny_srcsm
- unfounded propaganda
- faulty statistics
- ad hominem attacks
- yellow journalism
- and plain old lies

All you have left is 1 or 2 lonely antis.

I suppose it is a rhetorical question, "Where can be found a worthy opponent of truth." ;)
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 12:21 AM
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26. Your statement, yours to prove true or you are speaking out your
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:35 PM
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21. Except for when they are. Just ask Barbara Lipscomb. N/T
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 12:20 AM
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25. You gonna provide a cite for this:
"The majority of gun owners think like the racist TBaggers"

Surely you can or otherwise you are just talking out your ass.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:42 AM
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23. The need to defend themselves against attackers.
Yeah, some of them will be black.

Boortz wants dead black men pretty much exclusively.
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