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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:04 PM
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Anti-Gun Zealots Ignore Reality of Street Crime
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 03:08 PM by 1a2b3c
http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=2881

Let the debate begin. It has been a strangely muted one in New York City. Not much has been said about the source of the gun used by the multiple murderers at the Flushing Wendy’s. I saw one throwaway reference to the fact that it had been originally sold out of state, coupled with the traditional New York City complaint that all our crime problems originate in states run by hunters, militia members and other Second Amendment snake handlers. The complaint was halfhearted, however, because the gun had been resold (illegally, of course) in New York City. So some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation can’t prevent a black market in firearms here. The gun controller’s solution? Make guns illegal everywhere in America. Why not? It works with cocaine. Works with cocaine, he is cracking me up

Rosie O’Donnell got some attention for her hypocrisy on gun control, but not nearly as much as she would have if she’d been, say, a randy evangelist. Ms. O’Donnell was the celebrity emcee of the Million Mom March against guns in Washington, D.C., and she believes, "You shouldn’t buy a gun anywhere." Turns out Rosie has, yes, armed bodyguards. Where do they get their guns–on the black market? As a TV star, Ms. O’Donnell is, of course, subject to stalkers and weirdos; but as a resident of Greenwich, Conn., she is not exactly on the firing line. Call her net threat quotient middling. Yet here is Miss Big Star, telling the average peasant how he (and she) may or may not defend themselves, while she is surrounded by samurai.

It is not clear that the employees of Wendy’s would be alive or uninjured today if the manager had had a gun. The crime depended on one of the alleged murderer’s knowing his future victims and bluffing them into ill-judged obedience. But shouldn’t it be easier for store owners in New York City to get gun permits than it is for gun banners in Connecticut to hire their own thin blue lines? Before we put on airs about Times Square shooting galleries, let’s think about how well we protect the public.


And there you have it. The hypocrisy of the gun controller. You shouldn't be able to buy a gun, but i can sure afford to hire someone to protect me with a gun.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:21 PM
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1. Hypocrits indeed...
Liberty means nothing to the ones who disagree. They can never be made to see things from our view point, never will they be caring of our rights. And yet, a rapists worst nightmare is still a woman with a gun.

Maybe if one day they left their well-to-do neighborhoods and warm, expensive homes, to be mugged, beaten, and robbed--having the bandit utter the words, "Bet'cha wish you had a gun to defend yourself with?", then maybe they will open the bolted doors to their closed little worlds.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:38 PM
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2. Is there ANY right wing crap the RKBA crowd
won't swallow?

Brookhiser is a senior editor at Crazy Bill Buckley's Nazional Review, for cripes sake.

What's next: Ann Coulter's opinion?
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DocSavage Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:27 PM
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3. What would be wrong
with a gun control opinion from Ann Cooulter? I know that she supports gun owners and is a republican. So what. The issue on these pages is gun posession vs. gun confiscation. You already write that ANY opinion that supports gun posession is a Right Wing Pant Load, so why not really throw one in.

I do not know who's opinion you would accept concerning gun rights. The author would either be a Racist, Republican, member of the KKK, Homophobe, wife beater, satan worshiper, well you get the point.

Bench, there is just no person on this whole planet that you would accept if thier opinion supported gun rights.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:31 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:39 PM
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6. Says it all....
You and mannish Annie stand over there...and I'll stay over here.

"The issue on these pages is gun posession vs. gun confiscation."
Funny, when some people look at the folder they see the words "Justice/Public Safety."

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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 05:02 PM
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10. I use to try to keep the link police here happy and the best to my
knowledge tried not to post anything that might be considered right wing. Myself along with the other RKBA types still get accused of it. So I'm turning into a rebel and will link any damn place I please that is relevant to the issue being discussed.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:29 PM
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4. If Ann writes something
That pisses off the anti-gun zealots down here, then yes, i will post it. :-)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:44 PM
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7. The lying skank is pro-gun all the way...
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 04:46 PM by MrBenchley
Feel free to post something she's written.....a moment or two on Google will find it.

Tell me, do you really think posting a piece of propaganda from some right wing numbnutz who works for Crazy Bill Buckley does anything but make me laugh out loud?

Even funnier, tell me how the RKBA crowd posting crap like this over and over again shows us anything except what a tiny bunch of right wing extremists peddle that phony "gun rights" horseshit.
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1a2b3c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:48 PM
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8. I dont know, are you laughing?
I cant hear you from here. Are you calling me a right wing extremist? Would that be a breech of the rules?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:57 PM
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9. Locking thread
It simply amazing how quickly a thread, particularly those that are flamebait, can go to hell in this forum.
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