I can't believe there are so many experienced gun enthusiasts on DU (myself included)...

[MiddleFingerMom]

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...but (and maybe I've just missed it), I have NEVER seen this point made
about the difference between the concentric-circle targets on Democratic
maps and the crosshairs on Sarah Palin's.
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#1. Remember, Sarah Palin is an avid hunter. She looks through crosshairs
(except when she's practicing or zeroing in her rifle) TO KILL THINGS.
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#2. I have my pistol for twofold reasons -- the enjoyment of target shooting
(you'd be surprised how zen-like and relaxing the focus involved can be --
probably something ya gotta be there to believe -- I have often felt kinda,
yes... calm and blissful after a good session) and, yes... for the dreaded
possibility of home/self-defense.
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When I go to the target range, I've always been among others who are in
it mostly for the combination of the above (including law enforcement and
military types out for extra practice). Mostly. There have been, on VERY
rare occasions... serious competitive target-shooters. They are the ONLY
ones who I've seen use the purely concentric-circle targets on the range...
and they're ALWAYS shooting (usually EXPENSIVE) custom-made .22 cal
pistols -- which anyone familiar with weapons will tell you are pretty much
worthless as a tactical weapon (except for the alleged Hollywood hitman
muzzle-to-the-head technique).
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There may be those who come on here who claim to use them with larger
caliber weapons, too -- I've just never ever seen one in my years of range
experience.
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The targets for combined target-shooting/tactical ("home-self-defense")
shooters like me?
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Always...
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always...
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ALWAYS...
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...some variation of the target below. Which, you'll probably agree... has
little in common with the concentric circles on the Dem's maps.
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As opposed to how MUCH in common Sarah Palin's "crosshairs" on her map
have to do with her FUCKING PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH KILLING.
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Have I just missed these points made somewhere else?
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[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

1. Shoot an AK-47 here in Vegas!!

For entertainment! They've got a big busted blonde holding an AK47 with the 'man profile' target in the background inviting you to enjoy the sensation of firing an AK-47.

I want to do it.. but find something about it distasteful.. no no, not the big busted blonde.. that's not it... hahahah

[rl6214]

10. I shot a Thompson 45 sub machinegun

at that range in Vegas, using a Nazi Zombie as my target. Fifty bucks gone really quick but it was a blast.

[X_Digger]

2. My range gives you 3 concentric ring targets..

They're legal pad sized, and rather crappy.

[kctim]

3. There is no difference

both representations do nothing more than identify political targets that are/were winnable at the ballot box.

[RamboLiberal]

4. Sarah Palin is a Faux hunter & I'm not talking about Faux news

She more than proved she knows not a whole helluva lot about guns & hunting on that caribou shooting episode of that Sarah's Alaska she did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW0Xx4DXkYk

Daddy loads rifle, daddy works bolt. Sarah misses 5 times. Sarah handles rifle with finger on trigger.

[rl6214]

11. In her defense, her father took a tumble while

carrying that rifle and the scope was off. She hit with one shot when she used the friends rifle BUT her firearms handling and trigger discipline are just awefull.

[RamboLiberal]

15. Yeah but you'd daddy, Palin or the hunting buddy

Would think to zero the scope if you took a fall. Or at least figure out after 2-3 bad shots, gee my scope might be off.

[jody]

5. Thanks to Skinner and he alone who made that possible in spite of the fact IMO he's anti-RKBA. nt

[MiddleFingerMom]

7. RKBA? n/t

[jody]

8. Right to Keep and Bear Arms, an inalienable/unalienable right that pre-existed the Constitution & in

no way depends upon that piece of paper for its legitimacy.

[damntexdem]

6. I have no problem with gun enthusiasts.

I DO have a problem with gunnuts who oppose reasonable gun (and ammunition) control -- those who are destroying our nation.

[shadowrider]

12. You described gun enthusiasts, but you ain't agin 'em. Right

To quote another poster:

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

[oneshooter]

13. Please, for our edification, describe the reasonable controls for us. n/t

[shadowrider]

14. That poster has NO problems with gun enthusiasts

PROVIDED they completely agree with registration, etc. If you don't you're unreasonable yada yada yada and should be considered the unmentionable (g-word).

[benEzra]

19. Outlawing the lawful and responsible possession of the most popular civilian guns in the nation

is not "reasonable."

Banning and ultimately confiscating a quarter BILLION standard factory magazines possessed by ~40 million people, including magazines going back to the early 1860's, is not "reasonable."

Banning the most popular rifles because of the way they look, when rifles are the least misused class of weapon in the nation (accounting for fewer murders than shotguns, clubs, knives, and shoes/bare hands) is not "reasonable."

We have reasonable gun control in this country---the National Firearms Act, the Gun Control Act, the armor-piercing bullet ban of 1986, the background check law, and the multitude of laws and regulations that delineate where and when guns may be carried and by whom, and when they may be used defensively.

But bans on non-automatic Title 1 civilian guns, or ordinary magazines for same, are not reasonable.

[jody]

21. Please damntexdem, should the internet world whether you're loaded with logic or blanks. nt

[oneshooter]

23. We are still waiting to hear your answer to the problem. n/t

[madrchsod]

9. i`d like to again but i have no where to shoot...

[PavePusher]

16. There are many different types of scope reticles available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reticle

Some are more common than others, but I don't think they are usually intended as a call for violence when used in political campaigns.

Unless the message is from some very fringe elements, and pointedly worded.


There are also many different types of shooting targets, and you experience may not be fully representative of the variety available.

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=rifle+targets&cp=6&qe=cmlmbGUgdA&qesig=EzfVjey4TbOhnd4DQXmmKQ&pkc=AFgZ2tnau_FBNLeCWTpSWSUZgoi566RBUr9jeYZnXWJuCSdW5s8R6xSy8-MI4Kk9MebAsvQGFMVSlD7oBSWxRJFbA0yGIz5bCw&wrapid=tljp129652414126507&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=cmNHTbueK4WisAOEzMHPAg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CFUQsAQwAg&biw=1276&bih=575

[MiddleFingerMom]

18. Did you notice I actually SAID there may be some who use others... just not in MY experience? n/t

[Atypical Liberal]

17. I never use profile targets.

I never use profile targets. They are expensive, and necessary. I go by the adage, "Aim small, miss small". So I shoot at a 8.5 x 11 inch sheet of paper that has 4 bullseyes printed on it. This way I can print my own targets. Below are the ones I use. Mostly I use the 4-bull target, so I don't have to run downrange so often to change out targets.

http://www.midwayusa.com/content/pdf/legacy/rifle_target.pdf
http://www.midwayusa.com/content/pdf/legacy/pistol_target.pdf

For me, shooting at a human-sized target is a waste of paper, as most of my shots are within a 2" circle. Here is an example of one of my groupings:

http://imgur.com/2lcCU>

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

20. I use Hoppes rabbit and groundhog targets... like this:

Here is a shot grouping from two mags at about 10 yards. Pretty good, imo.

[jody]

22. Looks like you have a problem with vertical stringing and a few clicks of right windage would help.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

24. machineguns have a tendancy to climb.

for full auto @ 10 yards, I think it's a nice group. :shrug:

although the right windage could use a few clicks. yup.