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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:27 AM
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Will talk of a ban fuel another gun buying panic?
Do all those who are screaming for a ban not realize that their cries will simply fuel another “gun run’?

I’m already hearing reports of gun shops being sold out on high capacity magazines and I’m guessing standard capacity magazines will be next.

This is speculation but if I owned a magazine manufacturing plant I would be gearing up overtime to make as many high cap magazines as I possibly can.


I'mdefinitelyy going to start stocking up on ammunition again
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:32 AM
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1. LOLOL
go on and stock up, dear :rofl:
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:42 AM
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2. Almost certainly. They panic easily. n/t
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:46 AM
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3. Buy low, sell high. n/t
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:03 AM
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4. I bought a Mini14 right before the election
for 450.00$ w/ 7 25 round magazines. Same gun now is selling for about 675.00$ at the last gun show I went to.

There were also guys here buying every round to be had at their local Wal Mart , doubling the price and re-selling them
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:08 AM
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5. And of course, the people are using credit cards to pay for them
So they're paying interest on stocking up against a non-existent threat! :rofl:
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:56 PM
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13. LOL.....I sent your post to friends. They loved it!
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 03:15 AM
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6. hahahahahahahah
you go ahead and do that and Glen Beck has some gold for you also.
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:14 AM
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7. Not "will". Has.
I checked an online supplier -- at 5 PM yesterday they had 33 round Glock mags for sale. By 10 PM they were sold out.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 11:29 AM
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8. how many does one need not to panic?
:shrug:
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:44 AM
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21. thirty five
it sounds like a pretty safe and reasonable number
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:29 PM
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9. Yes, along with high capacity magazines and ammunition
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:50 PM
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10. I didn't realize that, no. Certainly it's plausible.
Why assault weapons though?
Why does it seem the gun slingers have lost interest in guns that have a practical use such as hunting rifles and shotguns?
Or maybe even a small caliber handgun. You're never going to use an automatic weapon for anything. I could see shooting at targets with a 22 like we did in summer camp. I understand that some people find it necessary to shoot wildlife. A glock or tech 9 or an uzi isn't going to be of any use for that.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:53 PM
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11. You could certainly hunt with a Glock.
10mm makes a dandy hand-gun huntng round.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:18 PM
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15. Yeah. For hunting people.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:59 PM
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16. Or many game animals.
That disingenuousness you are attempting to wear doesn't suit you well.

Also, you may want to inform yourself before spouting inanities:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_hunting.htm

http://www.topglock.com/item/42151_EFK_Barrels__Choke_Tubes_EFK_GLOCK_10MM_6_HUNTER.aspx

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_147_24/ai_62655369/
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:03 PM
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17. You can hunt with grenades and flame throwers. Should we be walking around with those as well? nt
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:38 PM
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18. Well, grenades are area-effect weapons.
I wouldn't mind people owning them, but I'd like a few more safety devices on them before people carry them in public.

Flame-throwers are regulated as agricultural items and are pretty bulky. Hard to conceal under a shirt. But they'll certainly demolish that straw man you set up. Be careful where you point it...
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 08:09 PM
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19. Its sounds like you're *not* ok with it then.
So if someone's dangerous grenades go off by mistake in a crowded place, you would probably want some legislation then, huh?
Want to take away our rights, do ya?
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:48 AM
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22. I know a fella with some grenades
fun stuff I hear. But heaven we take some personal responsibility when it comes to safety. Like having a fire extinguisher, wearing your seat belt, Not pulling the pin on your hand grenades when they are attached to your belt...
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:47 AM
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23. According to Rachel MAddow, RPGs, and artillery such as grenades actually is prohibited.
I have a solution that I think is reasonable.
High caliber guns should be a minimum length so they cannot be concealed. Must be painted yellow or some conspicuous color to help prevent it from getting misplaced. Laser etching ID numbers is a must and the gun show loophole must be closed.

Small caliber semi auto handguns can be allowed, again, painted yellow, laser etchings, minimum length. Must be made out of metal. Maximum rounds in the magazine would be limited to 6 rounds. That's enough. More than enough. For ANY use other than a mass murder.

And that's a big compromise from where I was originally, which was a total ban.

Cash for guns would have to be implemented. Ownership of the non compliant guns would become illegal. But you can still have guns for hunting and protection. You can still take a reasonable amount of firepower to political rallys to scare us libs.
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:40 PM
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24. i saw a police officer
who got into a shootout with one man, shot him 22 times, 17 in the abdomen, and he kept fighting. Six rounds is enough in your opinion, the officer may disagree.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:58 PM
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25. A great example of why we need to get the guns off the streets.
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:18 PM
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27. and still six rounds wouldnt be enough
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 06:51 PM
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33. Why does a cop need to kill an unarmed suspect?
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:32 PM
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37. no gun
does not mean unarmed.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:04 PM
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35. Yeah thats all fine and good...
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 08:04 PM by beevul
But invariably it starts at "off the street" and morphs into "out of private possession" or "out of someones gun safe".


You gun controllers want anything done at all, ever, I suggest you reign in the rabid antis. So long as they have any input what so ever, youre likely to get nothing.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:22 PM
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28. Why don't you have a member of congress propose that?
Then I'd make book on their chances of re-election and clean up.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 06:50 PM
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32. Why don't I instead let them sweat it out. Install that plexiglas partition theyre talking about. nt
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 07:58 PM
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34. How about if they arent allowed within 1000 feet of a citizen ?
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 07:58 PM by Katya Mullethov
If they're such terrible bullet magnets OSHA should be involved .
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:50 PM
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36. According to Rachel Maddow
"Cop Killer " bullets can be purchased OTC at 7-11 and GLOCK is an evil plastic handgun that is radio opaque.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:13 PM
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14. Only one in five gun owners hunt.
The hunting demographic is a minority subsection of gun owners.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 01:18 PM
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26. First, automatic weapons are already as tightly controlled as bombs and howitzers;
nobody is talking about automatic weapons (or if they are, I'm not sure why), since those restrictions have been on the books for going on 77 years, and the number of automatic weapons manufactured for the non-LEO civilian market in the last 25 years is precisely zero.

Why assault weapons though?

It might make more sense if we specify a bit more. By "assault weapon", we're generally talking about non-automatic, non-sound-suppressed civilian rifles, in small or intermediate calibers like .223 Remington or 7.62x39mm, and having modern styling and ergonomics. These are the most popular civilian rifles in the United States, and are also legal and popular in much of Europe.

As to why they are more popular than hunting rifles? Easy; the overwhelming majority of gun owners are nonhunters. And if you don't hunt, a specialized bolt-action deer rifle that sacrifices comfort, ergonomics, capacity, and economy for nothing but very high power and light weight isn't very useful, unless you are into long-range shooting or are a LEO sniper or something.

By contrast, an AR-15 or a civilian AK recoils much less, ammunition is much cheaper, and they can be used for anything from paper-punching to IPSC-style competition (as they are in Europe) to home defense (they are a good alternative to the traditional 12-gauge in that role). A few of them are even powerful enough to hunt deer with (e.g., 7.62x39mm and 6.8mm Remington models), but most aren't powerful enough for deer.

As to "small caliber handguns", the Glock is a fairly small caliber handgun, in the big scheme of things. A lot of police departments have switched from 9mm to .40 S&W or other larger calibers due to concerns that 9mm isn't really powerful enough for law enforcement use, though it remains the most popular centerfire caliber with non-LEO civilians (AFAIK). There are handguns powerful enough for deer hunting (.357, 10mm, .44, .454, .460, .500) but 9mm isn't.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 12:55 PM
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12. Gun lovers are an insecure bunch, of course they will stock up!
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:35 PM
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31. No matter what happens gun prices will rise ...
Firearms are already selling at an increased rate after the shooting in Arizona.

If I was planning to buy a firearm in the near future, it would only make sense to buy it today before the price increase or before the firearm was on back order. It also might make sense to buy firearms as an investment if you think more control is on the horizon.

As it is, I have no plans to buy another firearm at this time. I also see little chance of another Assault Weapons Ban or other draconian gun laws passing.
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:43 AM
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20. theres another gun ban coming?
AH! I better go buy more guns!
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:30 PM
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29. Monday After Shootings in Tucson Gun Sales Increase by 60% in AZ and 5 % throughout U.S...

Gun sales soar 60 percent in Arizona
By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 1/11/11 4:21 PM EST


Gun sales skyrocketed in several states after Saturday's shooting. | AP Photo

Gun sales soared in Arizona and several other states on Monday after the shooting on Saturday of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, according to FBI figures provided to POLITICO.

Gun sales skyrocketed 60 percent in Arizona on Monday, Jan. 10, compared with the corresponding Monday last year. Giffords was shot and critically injured at a public event on Saturday. Six people at the event were killed; 12 others were injured.

Nationwide, sales were 5 percent higher on Monday than they were a year ago.

Gun sales spiked after the 2007 shootings at Virginia Tech and ahead of Jan. 1, 2000, as some Americans anticipated a Y2K technology disaster.

In Ohio, sales spiked 65 percent on Monday, the FBI said. They rose 38 percent in Illinois, 33 percent in New York and 16 percent in Florida.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, cautioned that one day’s worth of data might not mean there will be a sustained spike in gun sales.

But he said it might indicate that some Americans fear tougher gun control laws in the aftermath of Saturday’s attack so they want to stock up now.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 02:31 PM
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30. Already has.
I wish I'd held onto a certain AR15 a while longer now.
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