Texans debate allowing concealed guns on campus

[oneshooter]

AUSTIN, Texas - Texas already lets lawmakers bring guns into the Capitol. And the governor sometimes jogs with a loaded pistol. But should people be allowed to carry concealed weapons onto college campuses?
Gun advocates argue that doing so could help put a quick end to threats like the one posed by a University of Texas student who fired several rounds from an assault rifle Tuesday before killing himself.
Under current law, college buildings in Texas are gun-free zones. But that did not stop Colton Tooley from darting along a street near the university's clock tower Tuesday, shooting off an AK-47. He then entered a library and shot himself. No one else was hurt.
"There are already guns on campus. All too often they are illegal," Republican Gov. Rick Perry said. "I want there to be legal guns on campus. I think it makes sense - and all of the data supports - that if law-abiding, well-trained, backgrounded individuals have a weapon, then there will be less crime."
Perry's Democratic challenger, Bill White, said he supports the state law that lets people with licenses carry concealed handguns. But he wants individual schools to decide whether to allow guns on campus.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/OR/StoryAP/09-30-2010-UTGunman

Notice that White was not against the idea, just wants to give the campus a choice.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Arctic Dave]

1. If people want to carry at colleges, tell them to petition Remington to open a University.

[cleanhippie]

2. What does an electric shaver company have to do with anything?

[Glassunion]

10. +1

[msongs]

3. consitution does NOT prohibit 3rd graders from carrying guns on campus ya know nt

[ManiacJoe]

6. True. That would be the state laws that do that.

But you knew that already.

[oneshooter]

7. When you have a reasoned, well thought out reply.....

Then please post it.

We will wait.

No matter how long it takes.

Till then please keep your childish, moronic, insipid comments to yourself.

Thank you

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Katya Mullethov]

11. Very astute observation

[cleanhippie]

12. Now we know you can read. How is your comprehension?

Not quite as I good, I think.

[SteveM]

13. "...And they called the wind Mariah."

[Bold Lib]

4. We've seen how well the "Gun Free Zones" have worked so far.

I don't see a problem with anyone that goes through the process of getting a CHL to be able to carry it on a university campus.

[ManiacJoe]

5. Reasonable idea.

There is nothing special about a college campus that takes a 21 year-old with a concealed carry permit who is safe when off campus and makes him unsafe when crossing the campus border.

[Euromutt]

8. Hardly relevant to the recent U of T incident

After all, the shooter didn't hurt anybody except himself, and by the sound of things, he didn't intend to. That's not to say I oppose rescinding bans on legally carried firearms on college/university campuses; I just don't think this incident makes for a very good hook.

[Callisto32]

9. These incidents NEVER make good hooks.

Nor should they. It is always reprehensible to try and use what is invariably a tragedy to try to advance a political agenda, in any direction. Such policy positions should be based on broad data. Of course, if that were the case the antis wouldn't have anything at all....

[SteveM]

14. We had to live through the coverage here in Austin...

One network at least tried to get it right regarding the AK-47, even saying it could only fire one round with each pull of the trigger. But it was still an "assault rifle," and it could still shoot "600 rounds per minute." One interviewee wondered how the shooter could so "easily get an AK-47," and "How could he afford it?" Clearly, he was unaware (as are millions) that the arm was not full-auto (which IS difficult to obtain), and clearly he didn't know that the price for said is dropping below $600 again. Such is MSM on this issue.

I did note some very frank comments by the U of T police chief who said he could never lock down the campus in time -- "we would need 400 officers" -- and how students should fight back and not try to hide.

The shooter (graduated 7th in his class at a major Austin high school) clearly did not shoot very easy "targets," except for himself. But he did the same thing as any other sociopath bent on a schoolyard spectacular, sans the innocent victims, and it was all over (including himself) by the time several layers of law enforcement, a tank and helicopters arrived.

One reporter by the name of Ward claimed that it was legal for Tooley (or any lawful gun-owner) to walk on the street with this semi-auto rifle, but not to enter the U.S. campus. He did not cite any sources, only "authorities."

[cleanhippie]

15. if law-abiding, well-trained, backgrounded individuals have a weapon, then there will be less crime"

Someone "gets" it. Why can't it be Democrats?

[NewMoonTherian]

16. If Oklahoma would allow campus carry...

we would have a perfect zero on the Brady scorecard. I wish we would get off our asses and work toward REAL progress. Campus carry, open carry, more reciprocity.