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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:28 PM
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Armed and Ready to Shop
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/201...

This article is no doubt a view that is favourable to the open carry people. However, this quote from one of the open carry-ers has me wondering: "I've been open carrying for about a year and most people don't notice, or some might make a comment. It's a demonstration I am a law-abiding citizen, you have nothing to hide. Criminals never open carry."

Has he branded all Concealed Carry people criminals?
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:36 PM
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1. No.
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 12:37 PM by NoNothing
Premise: ALL P ARE Q.

Does not logically imply ALL Q ARE P.

Only that SOME Q ARE P.

So, substituting "criminals" for "P" and "concealed carriers" for "Q" we get the claim in the article: ALL CRIMINALS ARE CONCEALED CARRIERS.

This logically implies SOME CONCEALED CARRIERS ARE CRIMINALS.

It does NOT logically imply ALL CONCEALED CARRIERS ARE CRIMINALS.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:38 PM
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2. All squares are rectangles.
Not all rectangles are squares.

:-)
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:25 PM
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5. All squirrels are mammals.
Not all mammals are squirrels.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:04 AM
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12. All humans are mammals
Ergo all Republican politicians are non mammals.

:-)
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:47 PM
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3. No
Nor should they be branded as such.
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mvccd1000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:59 PM
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4. No
I agree with everything you quoted him on, and I don't think he's putting that label on all CC'ers.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:03 PM
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6. This is bizarre. Last night I dreamed I was carrying openly
while shopping for shoes. Both are out of character. Please advise.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:17 PM
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7. Just make sure they match.
:P
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 06:30 PM
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9. I hate when my shoes and my holster clash. n/t


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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 06:30 PM
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8. Dreaming? Or shoe shopping?
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 06:30 PM by PavePusher
I like thigh-high spike heels, myself...

:rofl:
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 07:11 PM
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10. I think I ate a misidentified
fungus.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 11:30 AM
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14. Canned peaches does it for me. Safer, too! nt
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 11:29 AM
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13. Open-toe for me. I like to let my red nails shine!
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:24 PM
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15. I have about 12 holsters
for my two carry pieces.

You need to accessorize!
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 08:09 PM
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11. Well, in Wisconsin, they are, since concealed carry is illegal there
But as other posters have pointed out, universal affirmatives can only be partially converted; all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only part of the class of dead people is Alma Cogan.
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