Drive-by shooting at Bondi beach

[oneshooter]

SYDNEY police are looking for two high-performance vehicles that sped off after a drive-by shooting at Bondi Beach.

Police say a number of shots were fired into a park at the northern end of Bondi Beach about 10.30pm (AEDT) last night.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26265432-12377,00.html


How could this happen on an island with strict gun control?

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

[YOY]

1. And how frequently does it happen?

n/t

[oneshooter]

15. It took me about 5 min. to find these.

The official crime stats for Australia are here:

http://www.aic.gov.au/

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas


My question still stands unanswered.

[donco6]

2. It's not an island.

In fact, it's in Sydney proper.

[oneshooter]

4. Australia is an island

A very large island. Completely surrounded by water.

[YOY]

5. New Zealand is an island.

Austrailia is a continent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent

So are North America, South America, Antartica, Africa, Asia and Europe. You can combine the Americas and say they are one land mass and do the same for Asia/Africa/Europe but Australia is always it's own continent.

Now if you want to get into a proper geological spat...then start arguing where Asia ends and Europe begins. That's always a fun one and has changed so many times over the years.

[Euromutt]

11. The point is, Australia doesn't share a land border with neighboring jurisdictions

So the Australian government can't claim that gun traffickers straw purchase guns in Virginia and Georgia and then drive them to New South Wales without any border checks en route.

[Hoopla Phil]

12. Looks like both descriptions are correct.

http://www.islandsofaustralia.com/

[YOY]

14. Not really. It didn't happen on Tazmania. You can expand the definition.

Geography professor back in college once said that technically any land mass on earth is an island. This is true.

However the point that this "happened on an island" (as if to prove a point) by using that definition? Then I guess everything that doesn't happen at sea or in the air happens "on islands".

[donco6]

7. Oh honey.

Never mind.

[depakid]

3. Unlike Texas- rarely and almost exclusively between bikie gangs

in Sydney and mafia in Melbourne.

[oneshooter]

9. You are avoiding the question.

"How can this happen with very strict control of the types and ownership of guns by the government."

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

[YOY]

10. And you are avoiding mine.

What is the frequency of this?

Now I'm pretty fucking far from a "gun grabber" but I think you don't understand how statistics work.

But you can find gun violence where it is neigh impossible for a civilian to get a gun even in places such as Tokyo...but how frequently does this happen? In Japan 39 murders a year...and they have 130 million people.

There are a lot of cultural factors in there other than legality issues.

[friendly_iconoclast]

13. Like Puerto Rico?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4109009#4109419

depakid (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-19-09 04:53 AM
Response to Reply #15
21. As a matter of fact it does
Because unlike America- which is chalk full of random mass shootings, family killings and children getting hold of firearms (not to mention other common gun related crimes)- gangsters in countries like this tend to only shoot each other over turf and other beefs.

Less guns- more difficult to acquire- less (and different sorts) of violence. So yep- it works, even in places like Puerto Rico.

depakid neglects to point out that Puerto Rico has a murder rate 4X the US average, and the number of gun murders
in Australia is rising.

[SteveM]

16. The bumper strip "more guns=more violenced" isn't borne out...

Since 1995 there has been a substantial decrease in violent crime in the U.S., including homicide. Yet the number of firearms in civilian hands has increased during this time from about 190,000,000 to well over 300,000,000. Further, the number of accidental firearms deaths suffered by children in the U.S. has fallen significantly, ranking below other categorized accidental deaths (Nat'l Safety Council).

[katandmoon]

6. Unrec.

[GreenStormCloud]

8. K & R.

[proteus_lives]

17. This thread makes me laugh.

They just won't admit that gun control doesn't work on criminals or determined types, will they?

[slackmaster]

18. I think they are suggesting that places like Australia and NZ would be veritable combat zones

If not for the calming power of draconian restrictions on personal firearms.