I think individuals have the right to own a gun

[AngryAmish]

I read that other thread about that poor woman who was killed by her husband had a gun in a backpack in a house with children.

I don't own a gun because 1. I drink and 2. I sleepwalk. and most importantly 3. I have a toddler in the house. Why don't people lock them up?

I also realize if we have these freedoms people will abuse them.

(and if it seems I am shitting on a murdered woman, maybe I am. )

[grantcart]

1. OK I have to ask - what do Amish drink, when they drink?

[Curtland1015]

3. Hard water?

:shrug:

[AngryAmish]

2. I'm not amish

[JonLP24]

6. LOL

Obviously. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting on DU. :hi:

[Rude Dog]

7. Not necessarily

Some Amish end up leaving their communities and joining the rest of society.

[JonLP24]

11. I know that does happen

I was speaking more in terms of the traditional ones that live in their community.

[texasleo]

4. +1

[michreject]

5. Why would I lock em up?

When it's needed, it's needed now.

[old mark]

8. I don't lock mine up, either, but no one in my home drinks or

uses drugs, and the youngest "toddler" is my 53 year old wife, but she has her own gun.

mark

[michreject]

12. I keep a loaded gun in every room in my house

And a Kahr P380 in the pocket of my sweats. All have handloads in them.

[BuyingThyme]

9. What gun?

[Ozymanithrax]

10. Most of the time, they just murder people and cause pain.

You lock them up becasue that is the responsible thing.

After 57 years of life, I've never used a weapon except in Nam. I've never owned one. A gun is a crutch.

[Caliman73]

13. Actually, most of the time they do nothing.

otherwise there would be millions upon millions of deaths in the United States alone based on ownership figures. Anytime anyone dies it is a tragedy, but a gun is not a crutch unless you see it and use it as one. A gun is a tool that may protect you and others, or that may harm you or others.

I definitely agree that you keep your firearm/s secured though, especially if there are children in the home.

[Katya Mullethov]

19. It isnt recommended

But it can be done .

[divideandconquer]

15. Bravo!

:patriot:

[PavePusher]

20. Sometimes a crutch is the tool you need.

Oh wait, you were being denigrating. I see....

[Taitertots]

21. Thats funny

The only person here who actually has murdered innocent people is bemoaning us for owning guns which have never hurt anyone.

[GreenStormCloud]

22. Because you haven't had to defend against deadly crime for the past 57 years...

is no promise that you will remain safe tomorrow.

We who do choose to be armed will happily allow you to live in denial of the fact of violent crime if you want to. We simply demand that we be allowed to be able to adequately defend ourselves with the best defensive tools and have them available to us if the eventuality ever happens.

Do you have life insurance? How about fire extinguishers? Homeowners insurance? First aid kit in the house?

[slackmaster]

14. I lock mine up, and I live alone

I do drink a bit but haven't done much sleepwalking.

[benEzra]

16. In our house...

the guns are in a safe when not under the direct control of my wife or myself.

My wife and I do drink in moderation, don't sleepwalk, and our children are 10 and 8.

[oneshooter]

18. All of mine are in safes

with the exception of those under control of myself and my Loving Wife. Only child left at home is 11yrs old and knows the four rules. All three of us are competitive shooters.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

[aikoaiko]

17. Quick access for defensive use is one of the most common justifications.

I use a pushbutton lock box that takes about 3-5 seconds to open up.

This is mine. It sits on the standup piano in the living room.


There are many others, but they cost a little bit 100 - 300 dollars.

This one reads finger prints as well as use a combination lock


I urge people to get one if they like to have quick access to a gun or get one for someone with small children.

[burrfoot]

23. ?

I don't mean this as an attack, but I'm genuinely curious about why one of your reasons for not owning a gun is that you drink. Are you concerned that you might get the gun out while you're drunk? Or that if other people were over and drinking they might want to see it?

I totally understand that being drunk and having a gun readily available is bad thing, but I have to say that I've never felt the urge to bring mine out and show people when they're over and we're all drinking, or to clean or carry or have one out for any reason when I've been drinking. It never even crosses my mind.

Why do you think that "normal" (i.e. not substance-abuse level) drinking should be a reason not to have a firearm?

Your other reasons I completely understand, and I can only shake my head and wonder with you why people don't lock up their firearms.
I get that there's a time cost involved in getting one out of even the quick-open safes, but I figure if you're that concerned about response time why wouldn't you have one on you (i.e. in your positive control) at all times?

:shrug: