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dailydave21 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:57 PM
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A serious Gun Poll that I did not want to believe...
People that were GUN VICTIMS THEMSELVES are more likely to think that EASIER ACCESS TO GUNS will reduce crime.

This is something worth looking at. Take the poll here at TheGunPoll.com and view the results. You can then click on the box at the top which says "Gun Victim" and you can see the stat for yourself.

Although it's an internet poll, it's unfiltered... so people really do think this. Just unbelievable
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:00 PM
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1. These data are consistent with other studies and with my personal anecdotal evidence.
Well, other studies that aren't rigged.

IMHO the people most fearful of firearms have never held, much less fired, one.

:patriot:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:33 PM
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5. Perhaps...
I'll resist the urge to broad-brush Southern California Natives as anything but well-rounded and articulate.

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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:39 PM
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6.  I can understand why people would feel that way...
I met several people who were victims of a armed robbery who suddenly developed an interest in firearms and shooting.

It's nice to be anti-gun when you set in an ivory tower or when you live in a questionable neighborhood but have never had the misfortune of encountering an armed and crazed individual high on alcohol or drugs. Some people change their minds after getting the shit cared out of them and realizing just how close they came to being seriously injured or dead.

Life comes at you fast. Sometimes very fast.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:52 AM
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11. Your opinion is not consistent with reality.
Maybe you should look into what is not accurate about your opinion.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:33 PM
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4. Very true!
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 11:51 PM by virginia mountainman
Once most people learn a few facts, they tend to agree with us.

Nothing can shake up an anti gunner faster than reality, of a mugging, and the realization about just how WRONG they have been about the realities of gun control.

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Treo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:49 PM
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7. So the poll didn't fit
Your preconcieved notion what are you going to d W/ the information? People that have been the victim of "gun crime" ( as opposed to "baseball bat crime" or "knife crime" or "tire iron crime"?) Fell like they may have had a chance to fight back had they been armed, why is that so mind boggling?
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:53 PM
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8. Easier access WILL reduce crime against them. n/t
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:19 AM
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9. Makes sense to me
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 12:22 AM by Euromutt
People who were victims of a gun crime probably reckon that the law did not make it harder for their assailants to lay their hands on a gun, but did make it harder for their victims to do so.

ETA that I'm far from convinced that more widespread firearms ownership would reduce crime, though that depends heavily on whether you're counting only completed crimes, or are also counting attempts.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:49 AM
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10. It will probably reduce crime for the citizen carrying the gun. nt
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:26 AM
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12. I was once a victim of gun crime, and I believe that too.
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 08:29 AM by GreenStormCloud
It was a long time ago, over forty years ago, but I can still remember it clearly. And I do believe that gun laws do nothing to hinder crime and where they are overly strict they make things easier for criminals by disarming the victims.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 08:58 AM
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13. So people who know that violent crime is possible and that the cops
won't always be there to hold your hand, actually favor being allowed to defend themselves?

Bizarre.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:06 AM
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14. Clearly, the NRA needs start vicimizing it's opponets to persuade them easy gun access is good.
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 11:08 AM by OneTenthofOnePercent
New NRA member program: Assault an anti and recieve a free NRA T-shirt and Charlton Heston memorial fannypack.

:crazy:
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:36 AM
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15. It's dailydave21 spam bot with his bi-annual link to the Gun Poll again. Give the bot a warm welcome
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angry old white man Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 03:23 PM
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16. GUNS
Being a little left of center does not make someone anti-gun. The right to bear arms is for me the ultimate vote. The biggest threat to our liberty comes from our own government. Defending ourselves from criminals is a plus too. The problem is the number of illegal handguns and law abiding citizens in some areas are terrorized by those punks carrying illegal weapons.

I am glad the Dems have toned down their push for gun control. If they had done it sooner maybe Bush II would not have been elected.

Another reason to be have guns is to protect ourselves from some of these right wing wackos. Have you been on the townhall web site? There are some scary wackos out there who seem to be itching to go on a liberal hunt.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 03:53 PM
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17. Gun Control Almost Certainly Gave Us Bush II.
the Dems have toned down their push for gun control. If they had done it sooner maybe Bush II would not have been elected.

Definitely. Anne Richards vetoed the "Shall-Issue" bill that the Texas legislature put before her, and put herself on the side of the gun-grabbers in Texas. Bush made his promise to sign that bill one of his central themes in his campaign.

If Anne had signed that bill, Bush would not had an emotional hot button to campaign on. We can thank the gun-grabbers for the W's presidency.
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:27 PM
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18. Freepers live to slam (Firemission) internet gun polls. Don't buy it for a second!
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:29 PM
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19. Even if the end result makes sense?? NT
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:33 PM
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20. They only make sense to the people who slam the polls.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 05:29 PM
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22. So only cops should have guns, only minutes away, blah blah
Thanks, got it, check is in the mail........
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:30 PM
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21. i don't know
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yoyolopa Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:48 AM
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23. Gun Poll
YES!
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