Who are the conservationist?

[1a2b3c]

Is it the hunters or the anti hunters? Seems to be the debate down here as of recent. So who does the most conservation for wildlife? I will compare PETA and DU for this little test. http://www.ducks.org/conservation/Projects/index.asp These are the DU conservation projects that are happening right now. They range from the US to the Carribbean to Australia. Here is what has happened in Australia: Completed Projects:

Banrock wetland- Enhanced 350 hectares of floodplain along the River Murray.
Tolderol wetland- Rehabilitated migratory wader (shorebird) habitat along Lake Alexandrina.
Loveday wetland- Constructed culverts, regulators, and fish screens to control the European carp population and to restore the natural hydrology of the wetland.

Wetland Care Australia is a community-based, not-for-profit organization, headed by 16 voluntary board members. They publish a quarterly newsletter for members, Wetlands Alive, which reports on the conservation activities of Wetland Care Australia and related wetland issues.


Here is Mexico:
DUMAC (DU de Mexico) has restored and enhanced more than 1.5 million acres throughout Mexico in areas that are important for wintering waterfowl and other wetland-dependent species.

DUMAC has classified 27 million acres of wetlands and uplands as part of the Wetlands Inventory Program.

There is just way too much to list in the US. DU has too many US projects to count. If you want to see them all click this link and browse around. Warning: it will take hours to read through all the DU projects ongoing and completed in the US. http://www.ducks.org/conservation/Projects/index.asp

Well i cant find anything on "conservation" on the PETA website. I will just post what i have found. Here is the PETA statement on the mainpage: PETA believes that animals deserve the most basic rights—consideration of their own best interests regardless of whether they are useful to humans. Like you, they are capable of suffering and have interests in leading their own lives; therefore, they are not ours to use—for food, clothing, entertainment, or experimentation, or for any other reason.

To me, PETA seems to have some way out in left field ideas when it comes to fishing. But in order to be fair i will post them:
ASK THE BOY SCOUTS TO DE-MERIT FISHING
PETA is calling on the Boy Scouts of America to retire its "Fishing" and "Fish and Wildlife Management" merit badges. Promoting fishing teaches young people that hooking, maiming, suffocating, and killing is acceptable. This is a dangerous lesson, one that hurts not only the fish struggling for their lives at the end of a hook, but all of us. According to FBI profilers, the American Psychiatric Association, law enforcement officials, and child advocacy organizations, cruelty to animals is a warning sign often seen in people who eventually direct violence toward humans. In fact, published reports show that in every single case of recent school shootings, there has been one consistent factor: All the young killers abused or killed animals before turning on their classmates.

What You Can Do:
Please write to the president of the Boy Scouts of America, urging him to replace the outdated "Fishing" and "Fish and Wildlife Management" merit badges with a "Waterway Cleanup" badge. Scouts could perform a marvelous service to the community and to the environment by clearing fishing debris from rivers, ponds, lakes, and other waterways. Scouts can also learn to appreciate nature, rather than destroy it and its inhabitants, through birdwatching, hiking, and many other humane outdoor activities that merit badges. http://www.peta.org/feat/merit/index.html

Tell the Girl Scouts to Stop Torturing and Killing Animals

When you think of the Girl Scouts, do you think of trapping and killing innocent animals, or do you think cookies and good deeds? Think again. In a shocking article in the September 2003 issues of Alaska Magazine, Girl Scout Troop 34’s participation in a beaver-killing program conducted by the Alaska Department of Fish & Game was featured. It described how the Girl Scouts learned to trap and kill these ingenious animals using cruel body-gripping traps—traps so cruel that their use is banned or restricted in many states. Often the traps don’t kill the beavers immediately and they drown. It can take a beaver up to 20 minutes to drown! The American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) condemns drowning it in its 2000 Report of the AVMA Panel on Euthanasia.

Please send a polite, but firm letter to Connie Matsui asking her to please adopt strict policies that prohibit Girl Scouts from engaging in activities that require troop members to torture and kill animals:

Connie L. Matsui, President
Girl Scouts of the USA
420 Fifth Ave.
New York, NY 10018-2798
212-852-5004
212-852-6517 (fax)

[Superfly]

1. Don't forget other conservation organizations...

like

Trout Unlimited

Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation

National Wild Turkey Federation

Coastal Conservation Association

And more....upon request.

Meanwhile, PeTA just screams bloody murder in its own little corner of the world while hunters and fisherpeople pour billions in improving habitat, restoring wild populations, and making the world a better place for wildlife.

[ijk]

2. um, folks?

PETA isn't a conservationist organization. It's not what they do. They don't claim it's what they do. Some of their interests overlap with conservation, some don't. If you want to compare people's records on conservation, you need to compare these organizations with someone like the Sierra Club, Greenpeace, or the NRDC. Who don't have vehement anti-hunting platforms, of course.

[1a2b3c]

3. I know

I was making fun of PETA for being PETA.

[MrBenchley]

5. Shhhh.......

These guys are stewing because it turns out the hunting industry has been farming disease ridden deer on the sly while publicly shouting that hunting is a necessity brought on by deer overpopulation. They can't deny it, and they want to bitch about it having been mentioned in public.

If Duck Unlimited is a conservation organization, then Tyson Meats is.

You could also add to your list the Audubon Society, the National Wildlife Federation, or the World Wildlife Fund. All of those support conservation, and so few of their members shoot livestock, household pets, children at play or each other with any frequency.

Don't expect the RKBA crowd here to have any regard for animals...or humans. Their little metal fetishes are all that matter.

[Spoonman]

6. Yea surrrrrrre

"If Duck Unlimited is a conservation organization, then Tyson Meats is"

That's why the hold more non-hunting land in conservation projects in the US and Canada than the total number of non-hunting federal lands of of both the US and Canada.

Your "facts" are far from the truth.

[MrBenchley]

7. If Ducks Unlimited is a conservation group, then Tyson Meats is

[Maple]

4. We had to kill em

in order to save em.

Logic Spock would never recognize.