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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:35 PM
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Poll question: Do you think it should be legal to bring a gun to the zoo?
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 05:52 PM by lynyrd_skynyrd
It's a simple question.

Edit: Feel free to replace "zoo" with movie theater, restaurant, school, etc.

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:37 PM
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1. Your silly little poll might just backfire.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:38 PM
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3. Boy, that's a weird one, alright.
Left field, as it were.

Oh, backfire. Now I get it.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:37 PM
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2. Yeah - bring the kids too.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:38 PM
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4. Is it panda season?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:40 PM
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5. If you have the proper papers, yes.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 05:40 PM by anonymous171
Would I? No.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:42 PM
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6. Isn't this a Gungeon question ?
Hmmmm ....
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:42 PM
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7. If you're so afraid when you go to the zoo,
that you need to bring a gun, you should probably just stay locked inside your house with your head under the covers. Same goes for most public places that people want to bring guns to.
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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:52 PM
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10. Good suggestion, since nobody has ever been attacked and murdered in their own house.
:hi:
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:45 PM
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8. I think it should be legal.....But
I think the zoo should retain the right to disallow weapons of any type on their premises.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:34 PM
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33. agreed
as much as i am for gun rights, i also support property rights- if the owner of private property wants to ban firearms on his property- well i believe he/she has the right to do that
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:20 AM
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35. And just how many zoos are privately owned?
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:50 PM
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9. I believe you'll find
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 05:52 PM by dems_rightnow
That the people who answer "No" would be the same people that would say "No" pretty much regardless of what public place it is. I can't see a reason for "zoo" to be different than "restaurant".
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:44 PM
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27. How about a church?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:16 PM
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42. Some of the first gun laws in the South allowed whites to carry in church...
Just after the first slave rebellions, laws were passed allowing whites to carry guns to church in the belief that rebellions were most likely to occur on Sundays when the "massah" and his family were away and plantations were more vulnerable. BTW, when blacks rebelled, the first thing they acquired were guns.

From the rebellions forward, you began to see all manner of gun-controls in the South -- designed to disarm blacks.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:52 PM
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11. Unfortunately... It Has Always Been Legal To Be An Idiot !!!
:shrug:
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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:53 PM
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12. And also to be an asshole! Ain't Amerika great?
:D
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:54 PM
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13. Leave the kids home - bring a piece instead
:wtf:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:58 PM
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14. It would be foolhardy to put firepower anywhere a chimp might have access to.
Somebody had to say it... :)



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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:00 PM
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15. Why not, cops do. And given some threads around here, I trust my neighbor more with a gun
than I do cops with even a taser (and this coming from someone who has defended cops in the past).

If the only people you want to trust are those in power, well...that is kinda scary to me.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:01 PM
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16. Sure, as long as you have a hunting license and an elephant tag. NT
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:02 PM
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17. I don't get it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:06 PM
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19. Ah - got it. Carrying argument from another thread.
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Dissent Is Patriotic Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:05 PM
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18. Yes, those cages could crumble at any moment. n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:10 PM
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20. I can't see why zoos should be exemptions from gun laws in either direction.
A better poll would be, "Should people have right to carry unconcealed firearms in public?"
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:51 PM
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32. Why is the courthouse exempt then? Because it's not as safe as the zoo!!
I'm dying here, man.
Ten loony birds strap their guns on and go to the zoo - you can't make this shit up!!

What I really want to know is, did that one fucking asshole of a monkey throw his shit at them, like he does to everyone else that stares at him, or did he refrain, knowing they were armed?

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:12 PM
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21. I guess the question wasn't simple enough..
it needed an edit to make any sense at all.....
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:13 PM
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22. What are you going to hunt
while at the zoo? :shrug:
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WWFZD Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:45 PM
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23. Have at it
If your state allows CCW, which all but two do, and you've gone through the proper procedures then CC and enjoy your day at the zoo(movie theater, restaurant, school...).
Might have helped a couple SF stoners a few months ago fight off a pissed off (and rare) four legged predator. Much more likely that you need it to defend yourself against a psycho on two legs but my XD-40 comes in handy either way. And unless anyone was that 2 or 4 legged predator they'd never know I had it.


PS: those idiots at the SF zoo brought that tragedy on themselves.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:38 PM
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24. Right - a handgun is going to stop a 500 pound tiger. My advice is run.
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WWFZD Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:15 PM
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25. Thats not the best advice in the world
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 08:43 PM by WWFZD
but you do what you gotta do.
My advice is to to empty the mag into the 500 lb. tiger, then run.
Sure beats the old joke about the two guys hiking in the woods when they encounter a Grizzly Bear. The first dude stops to change into his running shoes, the second asks him - "what the hell are you doing? You can't outrun that bear." - the second one says - "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you!".
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:28 PM
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29. Good. You stand and shoot. I'll run and,,, errr,, get help.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:02 PM
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40. So you acknowledge a bystander with a firearm might
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 03:03 PM by AtheistCrusader
save your life? Interesting. Some of us are willing to risk our lives to fight, and protect others. Not sure why you would mock us.

As far as a Tiger goes, I would think a .40 or .45 should be sufficient to stop this type of anmial, shot placement of course being the more critical factor. Should get a foot or more of penetration.
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Howzit Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:15 PM
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31. Never run from a predator N/T
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:42 PM
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38. Handguns did stop that tiger
If I were those cops that had to go in after it I would have been shaking in my boots, but I guess the .40 is really an underestimated round. Plus cats are pretty thin skinned and lightly built for their size, a bear of the same rough height and length would probably weigh 1.5-2x as much as the cat. I would have dumped at least one mag into the animal before I paused.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 08:26 PM
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26. Why Not
Of course, John Wayne would have asked a differtent question. Or maybe he wouldn't have asked.
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randyjet Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:16 PM
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28. The question is not phrased well.
The question should be, Should licensed and registered people who have a concealed weapons permit be allowed to keep their weapons while in the zoo?

I assume that is what was meant, so I voted YES to the question. I have no problem with responsible, and people educated in the laws on the use of firearms, to keep their weapons with them any more than I worry about cops having their guns with them.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:35 PM
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30. Do you think it should be legal to kill a deer?
It's a simple question.

Edit: Feel free to replace "deer" with child, pregnant woman, koala bear, baby seal, river otter, etc.
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Karl_Bonner_1982 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:17 AM
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34. It's kind of inconvenient to leave them home when...
If guns are for self defense then they are most useful outside the home where you are more likely to be physically attacked. But if you're going to any public destination you have to leave them home, which defeats the purpose.

I think zoos and public locales should have a gun check at the front desk so you can be protected on the streets but also keep the weapons out of the destination place.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:12 AM
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36. do you now

I think zoos and public locales should have a gun check at the front desk

You think the costs and risks of some individuals' loony and self-centred choices should be passed on to the general public / publics of the "public locales" in question.

Maybe you think that there should be a charge for this "gun check" that would amount to a user-pay system. Such a charge could cover the material and human resources needed to perform this function. I'm not sure how much it would cost to completely eliminate the risk of checked firearms falling into the wrong hands, and why anyone should be required to assume that risk and bear any costs that result if the risk materializes.

Not when the risk can be 100% averted by LEAVING THE FUCKING THING AT HOME. Properly secured against theft, of course.
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:48 PM
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39. Many places that don't allow firearms
have accomodations for their storage while people who carry are at the location. Some state court buildings for instance. Usually they just have lockboxes set into the walls that the people can use, and they just get them out on their way back out. For that to be justified, the place has really got to have a need for constant security presence, like a courthouse. It is incredibly cheap to have some strongboxes built into solidly constructed walls, and so long as there is an actual security screening process for people entering the area it is legitimate. If its honor cyctem, it would be foolish for people to use them unless it were a water park or someplace similiar where the firearm would be at risk of loss or damage.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:25 AM
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37. Not enough information for a meaningful answer
Does the zoo screen every visitor for weapons? Any place that bans lawful possession of weapons should. If not, then it's a phony gun-free zone.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:38 PM
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41. For those who have a CHL, police officers, and others,
yes. I don't have a problem with requiring a license to carry there, though.
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