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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:49 PM
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Call the NRA! Rapper 50 Cent ordered by N.Y. judge to forfeit guns
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 11:09 PM by gatorboy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080620/people_nm/dc

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. rapper 50 Cent was ordered to surrender any guns he might have after a judge on Friday issued a temporary restraining order requested by the rapper's ex-girlfriend, lawyers said.

A lawyer for the rapper, whose real name is Curtis Jackson, said he would contest the order and that 50 Cent did not have guns or access to guns. "To my knowledge, he has no guns," said lawyer Brett Kimmel.

The order bars 50 Cent from being in contact with Shaniqua Tompkins, the mother of his 10-year-old son, without the court's permission, lawyers said.


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Anyone think that if this was brought to the NRA's attention, They'd defend his Second Amendment rights?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:10 PM
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1. why would the NRA defend him? He's a black rapper
The NRA has morphed from the 1960's into a Southern racist society, since the Klan was suppressed.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:15 AM
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8. Care to offer examples
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 06:17 AM by pipoman
or are you drinking the koolaid of the anti 2nd brigade?

I'll offer an example of how slanderous your ignorant statement is. Anyone remember Katrina and the post Katrina illegal gun confiscations of the overwhelmingly black population of NOLA whose rights were trampled? Anyone remember the NRA response? The only racist agenda is the coming from those who are trying to advance legislation to limit defensive gun ownership in inner cities. Needless to say to anyone who pays attention, the NRA opposes restrictions based on geography (usually aimed squarely at ethnic neighborhoods).
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:40 PM
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11. Care to back that up, or are you so wrapped up in
partisan politics you don't have any issues with slandering an organization whose goals you find distasteful? Citizens having access to firing ranges and safety classes to hone their skills is an honorable goal, even if YOU find firearms disgusting. Why don't you give us some actual evidence that the NRA is a group of repressed Klanners looking for a more respectable front? I bet you can't, and I bet you won't.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:20 PM
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13. The very foundations of gun-control were laid in the South...
See: www.georgiacarry.org and scroll to the Heller brief. You'll get an education which should completely change your views. And fas', too!
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:27 PM
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2. He's a convicted felon, and has no legal rights to own firearms under current federal law
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 03:12 AM
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3. Unless his right has been restored (it does happen).
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 03:15 AM
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4. No, the NRA would likely not defend him.
The NRA doesn't generally have an issue with restraining orders being used to temporarily restrict a person from their arms, particularly when the person they are being applied to has a history of threats or violence.

They do have an issue when that restraint takes on a permanent character.

They also have an issue when such a restraint appears to be "boilerplate", and not crafted to the specifics of the case.

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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:15 PM
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5. He's a convicted felon...
...unless his rights were restored by court order, he can't own firearms.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 05:00 AM
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6. NRA would support the judge on this one. I do, anyway...
... If he had a felony conviction, and is again under a restraining order, he has no business owning any type of gun. I am glad New York is enforcing its existing laws.

FWIW, his lawyer says he has no guns anyway.


mark
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 02:26 PM
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10. must have been a boating accident in which he lost his guns
so sad.

There is an excellent animated gif that would work here, but I would be infringing on another DUer's reputation to use it...
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 05:59 AM
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7. No
Contrary to anti-second gungeon dwellers often expressed assertions, the NRA has a long history of supporting NICS denials for people who are under domestic restraining orders, violent offenders, felons and those adjudicated mentally unstable. (and no, I'm not an NRA member).

Prosecutors and attorneys in domestic cases often push for redundant court orders such as this to remove any later argument that the subject was unaware he/she is prohibited from possession of a firearm. If he is found in possession of a firearm now, prosecution will be much easier.
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Turbo Teg Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 09:05 AM
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9. He's a felon and can't legally
Own firearms anyway unless he's had his rights restored (Highly doubtful). The part that I think is fucked up, is that if he had a clean record and was legally allowed to own firearms, then his right would have been taken away WITHOUT any type of CONVICTION. There needs to be a law stating that your firearms right can only be revoked after conviction of a disqualifying crime.
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 03:55 PM
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12. Maybe
"Anyone think that if this was brought to the NRA's attention, They'd defend his Second Amendment rights?"

Hell no, because he is a career criminal who likes to sing songs about gunning people down, stabbing people, selling crack, and shooting up people's parents house so they will come looking for him so he can kill them. He revels in the fact that he is a multiple gunshot survivor, wounds sustained during a drug deal. His tunes can be catchy, but the man is a scumbag by anyone's standards. If there was a reasonable doubt that he wasn't a ruthless murderer who has been lucky enough to not be caught or that he hadn't landed himself squarely in the camp of people who nobody wants armed than yes, the NRA would consider him a victim of New York's legal system. However he has worked hard his whole life to make absolutely sure that no good citizen would ever want to have anything to do with him.
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:22 PM
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14. No. The same as they haven't do it for *anyone*...
...who is under a TRO in one of the many locales in This Great Nation that include temporary firearms seizure as a condition of the order, to my knowledge.

Point?

Duke

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