the ban-RKBA group who would ban the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms for self-defense argue that RKBA is not a natural, inherent, inalienable right but a privilege granted by government and can therefore be taken away by government.
Er ... what group is that, jody? Does it have a name? a website?
The only ones I ever see around here arguing that this RKBA thing is "a privilege" is the crowd that refers to it as "a civil right" -- you being the leader of that pack.
Civil rights can indeed be taken away by the government -- which is exactly what your government does when it denies persons convicted of criminal offences the vote. The vote is a civil right.
The contrast is very simple either (a) an individual has natural, inherent, inalienable rights, e.g. peaceful assembly, and U.S. governments must protect those rights for a single individual or (b) such rights do not exist but are privileges, e.g. peacefully assembly, granted by government and exist only as long as UK government decrees.
You know what a dog's breakfast is, right? The vomit on the public pavements on the morning after the night before, that the dogs feast on?
Thank you for the lovely image conjured up by what you have puked up here. A quite unbelievable jumble of incoherency and putridity.
If an individual has the "natural, inherent, inalienable right" to possess firearms (on terms you approve, I gather the argument goes), HOW CAN A GOVERNMENT DENY ANYONE THE EXERCISE OF THAT RIGHT merely because s/he has been conviced of, oh, pot possession?
Do people in the US really lose their natural, inherent, inalienable rights if they get caught with a spliff? All of them, or just this one?
How about if they're prone to talking to people who aren't there? Your governments sometimes don't let them have guns, I gather. Do people with mental illnesses lose their natural, inherent, inalienable rights? All of them, or just this one?
You seem to have made the point yourself, jody:
As so many pro-RKBA supporters have posted on DU’s Guns Forum; all the natural, inherent, inalienable rights covered by the Constitution either survive together as one “united set of rights” or fall separately one right at a time.
So how exactly are you failing to get it?
When will you start standing up for the natural, inherent, inalienable rights of criminals, the mentally ill, ... children ...?
The UK does not recognize natural, inherent, inalienable rights like the U.S.
Was there a grade in which they taught stuff in the US, and did you skip it?
I offered you the beginning of the path to enlightenment in the previous post.
The UK has adopted the European Convention on Human Rights into its domestic law.
The European Convention on Human Rights starts out:
Considering the Universal Declaration of Human Rights proclaimed by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 10 December 1948;
Considering that this Declaration aims at securing the universal and effective recognition and observance of the Rights therein declared;
and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights starts out:
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world
If you can pinpoint where you're going off the track here, it might be possible to straighten you out.