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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-13-07 07:16 PM Original message |
Peak Soil: Why cellulosic ethanol, biofuels are unsustainable and a threat to America |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-13-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Finally the truth is starting to come out about ethanol |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-13-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not this crap again. |
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Vogon_Glory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-13-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. My Cynical Mind Is Asking Me... |
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tech3149 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-13-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. whether your growing for food or fuel the current agricultural model |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. What no comments from our ethanol shills?? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Not a shill - just want the facts to be presented honestly - this has been posted before |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Not refuted at all |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I don't like your math. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Try this, then. |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I doubt you have peer review behind this. n/t |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. And that matters how, exactly? Need a PhD to check my arithmetic? |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You don't need a PhD. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. There are consequences no matter what the energy source is |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Simple |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Crack much petroleum, do you? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. In many ways ethanol is a worse additive than MTBE. |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Thanks for the correction, I'm old. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. It's hard to say how dangerous MTBE is in drinking water. |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I do agree that corn isn't the best source for biofuel. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Advocating for more efficient sources for ethanol is like |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Talk about dishonest. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I have a different view of alternative energy from you, which causes me to draw different analogies |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I believe the peer reviewed research papers published in Science and PNAS |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I remember when jojoba plantations were going to save the world... |
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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. ethanol, better than petroleum ...n/t |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yum. Whiskey. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. You got something against messing your pants? |
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