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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 04:10 AM
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Gasland
Has anybody else seen the movie Gasland? Anytime you see Haliburton involved, it makes one wonder how safe it is.

http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 04:26 AM
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1. Any time I see Halliburton involved I awant to look for a shotgun
If they are involved you know its screw the locals as frequently and for as much as they can take them for.
fracking should be f in banned.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:40 PM
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2. Haven't seen Gasland ...
... but I have seen most of "Split Estate" on Planet Green.

http://www.splitestate.com /
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:26 PM
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3. The preview for that is powerful
Wow. All gas drilling needs to be banned...

Thanks for sharing that.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:52 PM
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4. When you watch, pay close attention to the video of Elizabeth Mobaldi
http://www.postindependent.com/article/20101117/VALLEYN...

She passed away in November this year, and it shocked me to see this vibrant, healthy woman just wither away.

In the video of her from about 2000, she looked 10 years younger than her husband. By the later part of the decade, she looked at least 20 years his senior.
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:02 PM
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5. Very sad
:-(
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:53 AM
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59. Just watched it, if you didn't notice. This is my "The Cove" of 2010. I am 100% anti-gas now.
Gas is not a stop-gap. Gas is not a solution. Gas is not something to fuck with. I doubt gas would even be competitive if it didn't have the exemptions it has. The 2005 energy act made it so that this process could be economically feasible, without it, you would have to do robust water table analysis, then you'd have to do some sort of containment underground, it's just, infeasible to do it.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:58 AM
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6. Watching this now, so far I have learned that gas companies are exempt from:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:59 AM
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7. Safe Drinking Water Act, Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, the Superfund Law, and a dozen other...
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 02:59 AM by joshcryer
...environmental laws.

And natural gas is our future sustainable stopgap.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:00 AM
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8. 40 trillion gallons of clean water, infused with 596 chemicals used in the fracking fluid.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:06 AM
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9. Interviewing people whose water wells were spoiled by the drilling, one womans well blew up.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:07 AM
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10. Womans cats hair is falling out, gas company claiming Lysol and telephone polls are the cause.
They're inside cats.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:09 AM
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11. Asked around for the worst of the worst, water that lights on fire, no one would talk.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:10 AM
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12. Finally gets some from an anonymous person who came to him and told him to "find out what's in it."
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:11 AM
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13. OK, I'm already thinking this is my "The Cove" of 2010. Wow. I'll keep updating as I watch.
So stop reading here.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:12 AM
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14. People are implying a "total loss of normal life" from these events.
From everything to feeling misled about it, to feeling that there's a conspiracy.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:15 AM
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15. More people affected by containmated water, guy hauls in water from town.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:17 AM
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16. Funny anecdote about calling 9-1-1, I won't spoil it, hah.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:18 AM
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17. Annndd, we got fire out of a spigot. Wow. Jesus. Fuck these gas companies, shit.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:24 AM
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18. Just touring the "Red Zone" now, finding people who have flaming spigots, easy to find 'em.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:26 AM
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19. Weston Wilson, not speaking on behalf of the EPA, although he works for the EPA (whistleblower).
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:27 AM
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20. 5 of 7 of the EPA review panel had conflict of interest, and benefit from this shit. Assholes.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:27 AM
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21. Conclusion: this shit is toxic but has no risk.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:28 AM
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22. Halliburton Loophole, exempts these fuckers from Safe Drinking Water Act.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:29 AM
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23. Killed the science. 2005 energy act buried it all. Safe drinking water exemption = no science.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:30 AM
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24. Weston Wilson and the EPA's hands are basically tied (my words). They can't do shit.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:31 AM
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25. "We must be directed to." Basically, EPA isn't doing anything because they aren't directed to. Fuck.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:36 AM
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26. More and more personal stories about toxic water from wells thanks to drilling.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:37 AM
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27. Guy went to drill a new water well and it blew up and natural gas spewed for 3 days.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:39 AM
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28. Tragic that these poor folks who *likely* voted Republican are completey screwed over by it.
I hear these guys talking about a mans word and how a man shouldn't come up to you and lie to your face and I just shake my head. *sigh*
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:41 AM
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29. It's a "free for all." Yeah, this is really sustainable.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:42 AM
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30. Guy shows pictures of a smog that forms almost every morning. Holy shit.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:47 AM
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31. Oh no, talking about BLM land, this is going to break my fucking heart.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:49 AM
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32. Anatomy of a gas well. Shocking how much crap they do. Ugh.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:51 AM
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33. The truckloads are insane (over a thousand) but the fucking evaporating of fracking shit... !!!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:53 AM
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34. Major decline of antelope since gas fields were placed in WY.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:57 AM
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35. Interviewing people with severe health problems now, gas-related chemicals in their blood.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:00 AM
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36. Whole family got asthma. Young healthy people. 16 hours of interviews, wow. He should post them.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:03 AM
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37. Whole industry is basically unregulated, no one knows the chemicals, no one monitors them.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:09 AM
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38. Womans dad died after drinking water from a seep, she froze dead animals found on the property.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:20 AM
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39. Texas commission had no idea how many oil and gas wells were around Ft. Worth, or emissions.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:20 AM
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40. Oil and gas development around Ft. Worth has more emissions than all motor vehicles.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:22 AM
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41. Motor vehicle emissions are 200 tonnes a day, oil and gas sector is about the same.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:25 AM
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42. Dish, TX, home of free satellite TV, has high level of carcinogens, 55x-107x public health standards
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:26 AM
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43. Each vent site is exempt from Clean Air Act because they're small, unregulated sources.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:29 AM
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44. Hundreds of thousands of sites contaminating nearly the whole gulf. Sludge is dumped.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:30 AM
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45. Testing results are back from well chemical tests, lots fracking fluids, in high levels.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:32 AM
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46. EPA of PA says "no proof." Docu. guy brings proof.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:32 AM
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47. No such thing of perfect energy, issue of contamination "there is none."
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:33 AM
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48. Asked to drink water, "only 4 households where there's a problem."
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:34 AM
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49. "Bottom line is what matters, water contamination is being dealt with." (Backpeddling to hell.)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:36 AM
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50. "Let us know if there's a problem." PA EPA budget was summarily cut. Drilling amped up.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:37 AM
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51. 15 million people get water from PA watershed. Largest unfiltered water supply in the world.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:38 AM
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52. 50k gas wells slated to go up if allowed.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:40 AM
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53. Heh, nice shot of a bus. "This bus is running on clean natural gas." Wow. What ownage by this Docu.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:41 AM
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54. "Frack Act." Simply removes exemption from the Clean Water Act. One paragraph long.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:44 AM
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55. Sub-committee on Energy and Minerals guy: "I'm proud to be supported by the oil and gas industry."
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:45 AM
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56. Mr. Boren is a fucking douchebag, holy shit. Holy.shit.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:46 AM
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57. "Would you have an objection to my bill? Safe Drinking Water Act." "Yes."
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:48 AM
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58. Completely shocked faces as this guy reads off the chemicals.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 06:13 PM
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60. Kick. Watch this documentary. If you support natural gas after seeing it, then I'm speechless.
There's no rational reason to support natural gas as it is being extracted in the United States. One zone has as much emissions as an entire city with millions of cars. It is not a cleaner form of energy, and if it was forced to meet air and water standards, would likely not be economical.
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