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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:40 PM
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Climate 'Tipping Points' May Arrive Without Warning, Says Top Forecaster
http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=9389

Climate 'Tipping Points' May Arrive Without Warning, Says Top Forecaster

February 9, 2010

A new University of California, Davis, study by a top ecological forecaster says it is harder than experts thought to predict when sudden shifts in Earth's natural systems will occur -- a worrisome finding for scientists trying to identify the tipping points that could push climate change into an irreparable global disaster.

"Many scientists are looking for the warning signs that herald sudden changes in natural systems, in hopes of forestalling those changes, or improving our preparations for them," said UC Davis theoretical ecologist Alan Hastings. "Our new study found, unfortunately, that regime shifts with potentially large consequences can happen without warning — systems can ‘tip’ precipitously.

"This means that some effects of global climate change on ecosystems can be seen only once the effects are dramatic. By that point returning the system to a desirable state will be difficult, if not impossible."

The current study focuses on models from ecology, but its findings may be applicable to other complex systems, especially ones involving human dynamics such as harvesting of fish stocks or financial markets.

Hastings, a professor in the UC Davis Department of Environmental Science and Policy, is one of the world's top experts in using mathematical models (sets of equations) to understand natural systems. His current studies range from researching the dynamics of salmon and cod populations to modeling plant and animal species' response to global climate change.

In 2006, Hastings received the Robert H. MacArthur Award, the highest honor given by the Ecological Society of America.

Hastings' collaborator and co-author on the new study, Derin Wysham, was previously a postdoctoral scholar at UC Davis and is now a research scientist in the Department of Computational and Systems Biology at the John Innes Center in Norwich, England.

Scientists widely agree that global climate change is already causing major environmental effects, such as changes in the frequency and intensity of precipitation, droughts, heat waves and wildfires; rising sea level; water shortages in arid regions; new and larger pest outbreaks afflicting crops and forests; and expanding ranges for tropical pathogens that cause human illness.

And they fear that worse is in store. As U.S. presidential science adviser John Holdren (not an author of the new UC Davis study) recently told a congressional committee: "Climate scientists worry about 'tipping points' ... thresholds beyond which a small additional increase in average temperature or some associated climate variable results in major changes to the affected system."

Among the tipping points Holdren listed were: the complete disappearance of Arctic sea ice in summer, leading to drastic changes in ocean circulation and climate patterns across the whole Northern Hemisphere; acceleration of ice loss from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, driving rates of sea-level increase to 6 feet or more per century; and ocean acidification from carbon dioxide absorption, causing massive disruption in ocean food webs.

The new UC Davis study, "Regime shifts in ecological systems can occur with no warning," was supported by the Advancing Theory in Biology program at the U.S. National Science Foundation and was published online today by the journal Ecology Letters, in its Early View feature: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123276879/abstract.

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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:47 PM
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1. That's what these idiot climate change deniers don't understand.
Well, besides science and facts. It will happen without warning and many people will die.

Hopefully included in that number will be ALL of the climate deniers. Because they deserve what's going to happen. While we don't.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:51 PM
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3. Nature is not that just
The nations already suffering the worst effects of "Climate Change" did little to cause it.

The leaders of the "deniers" are "deniers" because they don't want to give up the resources they have. Their resources will protect them longer than the poor.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:58 PM
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5. Oh believe me, I know that. Nature is completely indifferent.
Which is what terrifies many people, I think.

And I wonder if their resources will really protect them. A gated community is not invulnerable if things get bad enough. Wealth and power didn't protect the aristocracy in the French revolution, and we're talking millions and millions of starving, thirsty, displaced people.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:20 PM
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7. Well, as I said, their resources will protect them longer than the poor
If you erode the bottom layer of a pyramid, the top won't stand long...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:49 PM
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2. I disagree. You see, we've already had PLENTY of warning. We have just chosen to ignore it.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:55 PM
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4. I think the assumption on the part of many "deniers" is that any change will be gradual
Edited on Fri Feb-12-10 01:56 PM by OKIsItJustMe
Their thinking goes like this, "When the change appears to be getting dangerous, then we will act; but not before."
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:20 PM
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6. Cue the film "The Day After Tomorrow"
A new Ice Age triggered by global warming.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:18 PM
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9. Oh, I don't know. I think some of them just believe that it is "amoral" for human being to try to
Edited on Fri Feb-12-10 03:19 PM by StevieM
protect the environment. There is religious fervor to people like Pat Robertson on environmental issues. They believe it is our duty to exploit all the Earth's resources to the maximum of our abilities.

Steve
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:47 PM
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10. See James (G.) Watt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_G._Watt#Secretary_of_Interior

However, there is a growing religiously-motivated "Green" movement.
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:51 PM
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8. That's because
It still snows in the winter...
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 05:25 PM
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11. yep, Katrina, Haiti, California, etc., etc.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 05:49 PM
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12. Recommended Reading: "Storms of My Grandchildren"
by James Hansen.

I'm reading it now. Very good treatment of the challenges in turning science into policy.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 07:53 PM
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13. From a review of Ubiquity,
by Mark Buchanan:

"The basic principle is that certain systems, under certain circumstances, behave in rather curious yet mathematically similar ways. For a practical illustration of the idea, take a handful of rice and drop the grains one by one on to a table top. Soon you will have a pile of rice. But the pile will not grow taller for ever: eventually the addition of one more grain will cause an avalanche. Keep a tally of the magnitudes of these avalanches and a characteristic pattern emerges, one that can be described mathematically using a power function. The important point about this in the present context is that the power-function description implies something profound about our ability to predict the behaviour of the rice pile. The addition of a single grain may have no discernible effect, or it may precipitate a small avalanche, or a big one, or a series of avalanches resulting in a catastrophic collapse of the whole structure. Because of the particular mathematical distribution of avalanche magnitudes, predicting which of these consequences will ensue is, for all practical purposes, impossible."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2000/oct/14/scienceandnature
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