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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:59 PM
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Jesus H Christ, have you seen http://www.globalwarming.org/???
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:01 PM
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1. "potentially disastrous Kyoto treaty"
These fuckers are real winners.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:03 PM
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2. it's scary
The consequences of global warming will affect two generations now living.

Don't people care about their children??!!!

Sue
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:52 PM
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16. They don't. It's all about living for now with them.
As for the fundies, they want to see the earth destruct, as a way of fulfilling their silly rapture/armageddon prophesy.


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.19254800
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:03 PM
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3. Oy Vey: "Glacial melting on Mt. Kilimanjaro not due to global warming"
Must be all the mountain dwarves' blow dryers or something.....

http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=736
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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:03 PM
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4. Bloody Hell!!! Who's sponsoring this site?
I mean the repukes refuse to acknowledge that global warming is even an issue. Is this something like a 527 group?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:08 PM
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6. Here's their blah blah and yadda yadda
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 09:09 PM by BlueEyedSon
http://www.globalwarming.org/about.htm

About GlobalWarming.org

This web site is a project of the Cooler Heads Coalition, a sub-group of the National Consumer Coalition.

The Cooler Heads Coalition formed May 6, 1997 to dispel the myths of global warming by exposing flawed economic, scientific, and risk analysis. Coalition members will also follow the progress of the international Global Climate Change Treaty negotiations.

This website is paid for and maintained by Consumer Alert.

More information about the Cooler Heads Coalition.

About the National Consumer Coalition

The National Consumer Coalition was formed by Consumer Alert in late 1996 as an on-going coalition of market-oriented national and state-level policy and activist groups, which focus on consumer issues in the policy arena. Jointly representing over 2,000,000 individuals, the NCC currently includes 24 member groups. The NCC is coordinated by Fran Smith, Consumer Alert's executive director, and the NCC's issue work is done by its sub-groups of which three have already formed. Each sub-group focuses on a specific issue, such as internet privacy, global climate change, and health care, and includes experts from the member organizations who study that issue.

Since many NCC mambers are non-profit, non-partisan 501(c)(3) organizations, NCC does not engage in lobbying. NCC promotes broad educational activities, and members have submitted comments to federal agencies and testified on behalf of consumers. The NCC's agenda is determined by the member groups.

The Proclamation of the National Consumer Coalition

The members of the National Consumer Coalition (NCC) do hereby endorse the following principles for a society of free and responsible consumers:

* A market economy benefits consumers by expanding consumer choice and competition and fostering innovation, which lowers costs and improves consumer health and safety.

* Individual consumers have different values and varying needs in the marketplace and shop for goods and services based on those, such as quality level, price, service, and convenience.

* Informed consumers are better off making their own decisions in the marketplace and holding responsibility for those decisions.

* Consumers exert clout in the marketplace by their decisions to buy or not to buy and to choose where to spend their money.

* Government policies that restrict consumer choice and stifle competition harm consumers by substituting policymakers’ values for individual values and raising the costs of goods and services to consumers.

For more information, click here for the NCC website. The site contains an updated list of member organizations and links to their web sites. The site also includes the latest activities of the NCC.
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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:11 PM
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7. They sound like the love child of Ann Raynd and Carl Rove. eom
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:11 PM
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8. If it smells like a fundie, walks and talks like a fundie
Chances are its a fundie.


Consumer Alert, a 501 (c)(3) organization, is supported by tax-deductible contributions from individuals, corporations, and foundations. Our contributors agree that an independent consumer organization that supports the principles of sound science, consumer choice and free-market competition is a critical element in public policy debates. Consumer Alert makes its own decisions about which consumer issues to focus on based on the principles outlined above.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:14 AM
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14. There are several good sites to identify funders
http://www.exxonsecrets.org, disinfopedia, PRwatch & http://www.heatisonline.org/main.cfm to name a few


The Coalition is a sub-group of the National Consumer Coalition formed "to dispel the myths of global warming by exposing flawed economic, scientific and risk analysis."

Formed in 1997, the Coalition and its website were revised in April 2004. It is currently hosted and financed by Consumer Alert, member and organizer of the National Consumer Coalition. The Coalition publishes the bi-weekly "Cooler Heads Newsletter" in conjunction with the Competitve Enterprise Institute. Current members are: 60 Plus Association, The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (junkscience.com), Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, Americans for Tax Reform, Association of Concerned Taxpayers, Atlas Economic Research Foundation, Capital Research Center, Citizens Against Government Waste, Citizens for a Sound Economy, Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow, Competitive Enterprise Institute, Consumer Alert, Defenders of Property Rights, Foundation for American Liberty, Frontiers of Freedom, Fund for a New Generation, The Heartland Institute, National Center for Policy Analysis, National Center for Public Policy Research, Political Economy Research Center, Public Interest Institute, Small Business Survival Committee, United Seniors Association, and Women for Tax Reform

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=93

The Cooler Heads Coalition is a second generation disinformation organization. Its predecessors include Global Climate Coalition

From the 1991 "Ice Campaign" run by the coal and utility industries to the Marshall Institute's bogus "Study" of 1998 (which was designed to resemble a National Academy of Sciences document) to the recent efforts of ExxonMobil and Peabody Energy to eviscerate efforts to address the climate crisis, in tandem with the Bush White House, the fossil fuel lobby and its ideological supporters have waged a relentless campaign of deception and disinformation to confuse people about the reality of warming-driven climate change.

In March, 2000, however, the campaign suffered a serious setback when the Global Climate Coalition, the main industry lobbying group, suffered major defections. More than a year after British Petroleum and Shell left the group, it was abandoned by Ford, Daimler-Chrysler, Texaco, The Southern Company, and General Motors. While many of these companies said they still opposed the Kyoto Protocol, their defections nevertheless represented an enormous victory for environmental and religious activists.

The GCC announced it will re-constitute itself as an umbrella group for trade associations rather than individual companies. Since it includes such groups as The American Petroleum Institute, the Automobile Manufacturers' Association and Western Fuels, it is still possible that many auto, coal and oil companies might still support its efforts to prevent the U.S. from taking any meaningful steps to address the climate crisis.

The group has spent more than $63 million to combat any progress toward addressing the climate crisis -- including a $13 million ad campaign in 1997 to support a Senate resolution against ratification of the Kyoto Protocol.

http://www.heatisonline.org/contentserver/objecthandlers/index.cfm?id=4380&method=full
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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:08 PM
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5. Found them
About the National Consumer Coalition

The National Consumer Coalition was formed by Consumer Alert in late 1996 as an on-going coalition of market-oriented national and state-level policy and activist groups, which focus on consumer issues in the policy arena. Jointly representing over 2,000,000 individuals, the NCC currently includes 24 member groups. The NCC is coordinated by Fran Smith, Consumer Alert's executive director, and the NCC's issue work is done by its sub-groups of which three have already formed. Each sub-group focuses on a specific issue, such as internet privacy, global climate change, and health care, and includes experts from the member organizations who study that issue.

Since many NCC mambers are non-profit, non-partisan 501(c)(3) organizations, NCC does not engage in lobbying. NCC promotes broad educational activities, and members have submitted comments to federal agencies and testified on behalf of consumers. The NCC's agenda is determined by the member groups.

The Proclamation of the National Consumer Coalition

The members of the National Consumer Coalition (NCC) do hereby endorse the following principles for a society of free and responsible consumers:



They're entire treatise is based on the idea of "free consumerism" without repercussions. So guzzle that gas, use those aerosols, and bring on the frion!!!
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:12 PM
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9. 1997, the time this was formed...
was just about the time that major
corporations, who used to sponsor most of the
"no warming" propoganda, started to bail
on the idea, as it became less and less
intellectually respectable to ignore the
mounting evidence.
This site is a relic. Just about all
the major corporate bigwigs are
coming around to reality. Even
James Baker gave a speech recently
about the reality of warming.

Bush, Cheney, and the Congress are
the last holdouts...
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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:15 PM
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11. Of course, because they'd have to find alternative fuel
sources and all their big wig buddies would lose their jobs!! ASS HOLES, the whole lot of 'em!
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:14 PM
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10. oh propaganda, thine name is globalwarming.com
what a load of crap
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:18 PM
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12. I think I'm going to be sick.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:40 PM
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13. Somone needs to grab globalwarming.com
And put up actuall information.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:51 AM
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15. Astroturf is remarkably tolerant to climate change
It's amazing what a neo-con with a copy of Dreamweaver can do.

--p!
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Memekiller Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:03 PM
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17. My favorite - global warming to teraform Mars...
Wait - I thought global warming didn't exist.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 10:59 PM
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18. i know lol - theres no warming.. but if there was it would be
really really good for us.
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Memekiller Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 12:25 AM
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19. The articles are side by side...
I mean, article one: global warming's a myth. Article two: global warming could teraform Mars. And they call us stupid libruls.
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