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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:47 PM
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MPR: (8 out of 9 Minnesota) GOP gubernatorial candidates reject global warming science
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 07:50 PM by OKIsItJustMe
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/09/15...

GOP gubernatorial candidates reject global warming science

by Tim Pugmire, Minnesota Public Radio
September 16, 2009

St. Paul, Minn. Nearly all of the Republicans running for governor next year say they don't believe in human-caused climate change.

In fact, eight of the nine declared GOP candidates say they view global warming science as an unproven theory that should no longer drive state policy. Environmental activists say the prevailing GOP view not only runs counter to the beliefs of most scientists, but also to Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

The global warning debate has not yet eclipsed the economy or health care as a campaign issue, but the topic has been coming up at Republican gatherings.

The issue was raised last week during a GOP candidate forum at the State Fair. Republican State Sen. Mike Jungbauer of East Bethel proudly declared himself the number-one global warming denier in Minnesota. Jungbauer also held up a state government brochure that he had picked up at a fair exhibit.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:50 PM
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1. They don't believe in facts such as evolution, either,
just because they don't evolve they think no one else does.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:54 PM
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2. Perhaps I'm too cynical
I tend to believe that anyone smart enough to get to the gubernatorial level of politics is smart enough to grasp basic science.

I fear they may be taking a stance simply to gain political advantage.

Either way, its depressing.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 05:18 AM
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9. By way of evidence against your belief ...
> I tend to believe that anyone smart enough to get to the gubernatorial
> level of politics is smart enough to grasp basic science.

... I give you a past governor of Texas ...



Sometimes a moron is just a moron ...
:shrug:

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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:32 AM
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11. The scary thing is, I think Bush is smarter than we generally give him credit for
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 12:32 PM by OKIsItJustMe
The man did have a number of years of higher education under his belt.

When he was working on his Father's campaign, he hit upon the Religious Right as being the key to winning the election and, in particular, winning Texas. So, from nowhere, he became governor. (Guile is a form of intelligence.)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus /
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/etc...


DOUG WEAD: Sometimes, when we would prepare these memos for his father, we would prepare a memorandum on a region or a state. And I remember George W. reviewing the memorandum on the state of Texas, and he just lit up. "Ah!" You know, "I could do this in Texas." You know, "I can make this work in Texas." I think there was no secret he was talking about running for governor.



DOUG WEAD: Now, he had become an evangelical Christian himself. So he's reading this strategy, and he's thinking, "Whoa."

GEORGE W. BUSH: (1994 campaign commercial) I am running for governor to change this state. We can right the wrongs in Texas if guided by one basic principle: Individuals should be responsible and accountable for their actions.

WAYNE SLATER: It was a marvelous transformation from the outsider, rich wastrel, who would drink, to the inside Texan--

ANNOUNCER: (campaign commercial) --a family man active in civic and church programs to help the disadvantaged--

WAYNE SLATER: --a person who understood the values, the religious ethic, the social ethic, the cultural ethic that was so missing in his first campaign.



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice200...

What did George W. learn from watching his father's career?

I think, (he) learned a lot from his father's campaigns in terms of how to win, and then how to lose, both, '88 and '92, and then said "You have to be respectful of the Republican Party's base, what they believe."

And there are some issues that carry over better from the Republican party base to the national electorate. I believe that the country shares the basic economic freedom, pro-business, limited government ideology the Republicans have. The country as a whole has a more watered down, moderate version of that, but nonetheless, that's something that you can transfer from Texas to the country. You can't transfer abortion, school prayer from Texas to the country. I think he made it very clear that compassionate conservatism meant we're going to have economic freedom, pro-businesses, do some stuff on education to make that better, but we're not going to have a Christian country. We're not going to try and transplant the ideological views of Dallas or Houston to the country as a whole.

And that was what Republicans are looking for. Republicans are tired of losing after '92 and '96. They wanted something different than Ralph Reid and Jerry Falwell, and Bush gave it to them, at the same time while preserving good relations, in his own case, with Ralph Reid and Jerry Falwell. So that trick of not being seen as a candidate of the Christian right, but nonetheless being friendly with the Christian right, was the sort of synthesis that enabled him to get from the Republican primaries into competitiveness here in the general election.



When he ran for governor, he was articulate, relative to when he ran for President. (He was the "Joe Sixpack" candidate. The candidate you'd want to have a beer with. He bought a ranch. He developed a drawl He became an anti-intellectual)

Read a bit about Lucius Junius Brutus and see if you don't view George Walker Bush in a slightly different (scarier) light.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:11 AM
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15. That's always a possibility ...
... but one that I don't view as very likely.

It may well be the plan of his minders/controllers but I think that
they were giving a lot of help by Nature in GWB's case.

:hi:
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:58 PM
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4. They don't believe in the Goddess, wood nymphs, or the power of chanting in A minor in a tunnel.
And the fact that you use the term "believe" is telling. Keep your religion out of politics.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:36 PM
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5. I don't have any fucking religion..
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 08:38 PM by Cha
Analyze that.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:56 PM
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3. Global warming mythology is bad for liberal objectives. nt
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:22 AM
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10. Your post is unclear...
Are you admitting that you're as ignorant and ill-informed as the Republicans running Governor of my homestate of MN?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:39 AM
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12. yes
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:56 AM
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13. Well, as they say, admitting you have a problem is the 1st step to recovery
I hope you find an appropriate education to help cure you of your intellectual shortcomings.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:03 PM
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14. yes
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:51 PM
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6. Sen. Inhofe R-OK would fit right in with that crew
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 05:14 AM
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8. Yeah, he posted right above you too ... (n/t)
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:56 PM
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7. Could it be because summer lasts one month in Minnesota?
OK I am joking.
Some of the predictions I have been hearing about global warming are truly frightening
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