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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:23 AM
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Scientific American: Nuclear Fuel Recycling: More Trouble Than It's Worth
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=rethinking-nuclear-fuel-recycling

April, 2008

Nuclear Fuel Recycling: More Trouble Than It's Worth
Plans are afoot to reuse spent reactor fuel in the U.S. But the advantages of the scheme pale in comparison with its dangers
By Frank N. von Hippel

<snip>

It is exactly this failed reactor type that the DOE now proposes to develop and deploy—but with its core reconfigured to be a net plutonium burner rather than a breeder. The U.S. would have to build between 40 and 75 1,000-megawatt reactors of this type to be able to break down transuranics at the rate they are being generated in the nation’s 104 conventional reactors. If each of the new sodium-cooled reactors cost $1 billion to $2 billion more than one of its water-cooled cousins of the same capacity, the federal subsidy necessary would be anywhere from $40 billion to $150 billion, in addition to the $100 billion to $200 billion required for building and operating the recycling infrastructure. Given the U.S. budget deficit, it seems unlikely that such a program would actually be carried through.

If a full-scale reprocessing plant were constructed (as the DOE until recently was proposing to do by 2020) but the sodium-cooled reactors did not get built, virtually all the separated transuranics would simply go into indefinite storage. This awkward situation is exactly what befell the U.K., where the reprocessing program, started in the 1960s, has produced about 80 tons of separated plutonium, a legacy that will cost tens of billions of dollars to dispose of safely.

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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:35 AM
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1. Good...lets stop wasting $$ here on this boondoggle. recommended
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:00 AM
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2. They've discovered oil in North Dakota, we can stop worrying about energy now.
What do other countries do with their nuclear wastes? All we hear is what this country does. Our nuclear industry is tied to the military through the government and I don't trust them as far as I can throw a reactor.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:44 PM
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14. I don't know what other countries do with nuke waste but...
...I do know that we use depleted uranium (DU) munitions. DU munitions are classified as a WMD and recognized as such by most of the world's governments. (Not sure if bushco removed it from that list in the same fashion that they changed the terms of torture so we could use water-boarding for instance.)

Perhaps there is a buyer for that nuke waste who in tern sells it to the manufacturers of DU munitions. They sell those munitions to our military who then uses it in the Middle East. DU-oxide is a byproduct of the use of those munitions and now contaminates vast areas of the Middle East. IT IS A HAZARDOUS WASTE PRODUCT! It is quite dangerous to living organisms, it's danger is in the radiation poisoning it causes. The particles of DU-oxide are microscopic and prone to being blown about on the winds or prone to becoming contaminates in groundwater.

A single particle, once introduced into a human, tends to lodge and remain lodged for...well it can remain there for the rest of that persons life or it could be passed right back out in the bathroom. That particle is very very low radioactive-wise but the radiation is persistent,-(Half-life in the millions of years), and that radiation over time destroys living tissue in which it is lodged. If that tissue is a kidney, a lung or even a reproductive organ...well you do the math.

Those who are exposed in the Middle East generally get much much more than a single particle of DU Oxide. Contaminated individuals can and often do pass along this contamination to their loved ones. Children born to contaminated parents are often born with horrendous birth-defects. The rate of such births throughout the Middle East is STAGGERING. The rates of such births is increasing alarmingly among our veterans. Cancers and leukemias among are vets are rising alarmingly as well.
The VA is aware of this but lumps exposures and the results of such exposures under the catchall: Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome or PTSD.

There are scads of pages written about this all over the web. Is this what is being done with our Nuke Wastes???? You tell me.

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:09 AM
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3. Frank N. von Hippel is a twit
Every autodidactic nuclear engineer worth his molten salt knows he's full of shit...

:evilgrin:

:rofl:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:17 AM
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4. After its all said and done there is still no place to put the waste
Although a dozen years have elapsed since any new nuclear power reactor has come online in the U.S., there are now stirrings of a nuclear renaissance. The incentives are certainly in place: the costs of natural gas and oil have skyrocketed; the public increasingly objects to the greenhouse gas emissions from burning fossil fuels; and the federal government has offered up to $8 billion in subsidies and insurance against delays in licensing (with new laws to streamline the process) and $18.5 billion in loan guarantees. What more could the moribund nuclear power industry possibly want?

Just one thing: a place to ship its used reactor fuel. Indeed, the lack of a disposal site remains a dark cloud hanging over the entire enterprise. The projected opening of a federal waste storage repository in Yucca Mountain in Nevada (now anticipated for 2017 at the earliest) has already slipped by two decades, and the cooling pools holding spent fuel at the nation’s nuclear power plants are running out of space.

Most nuclear utilities are therefore beginning to store older spent fuel on dry ground in huge casks, each typically containing 10 tons of waste. Every year a 1,000-megawatt reactor discharges enough fuel to fill two of these casks, each costing about $1 million. But that is not all the industry is doing. U.S. nuclear utilities are suing the federal government, because they would not have incurred such expenses had the U.S. Department of Energy opened the Yucca Mountain repository in 1998 as originally planned. As a result, the government is paying for the casks and associated infrastructure and operations—a bill that is running about $300 million a year.

bolding mine
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:59 AM
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5. When I read this article, it took me a while to put my finger on why it bugged me.
What bothered me about it was that there was no discussion (not even a single mention, if I recall) of what he considers the alternatives to be, and why they are better.

More trouble than what?
More dangerous than what?
More expensive than what?

I mean, there wasn't even the usual toss-off boilerplate about renewables this or that. I literally don't know what he wants to do instead.

Just sayin.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:27 AM
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6. It's right at the very beginning of the article
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 10:47 AM by bananas
"The author argues against reprocessing and for storing the waste in casks until an underground repository is ready."

It's not about nuclear-vs-renwables, it's about recycling-vs-once-through fuel cycles.

Right at the very beginning of the article is a summary:


Key Concepts
Spent nuclear fuel contains plutonium, which can be extracted and used in new fuel.
To reduce the amount of long-lived radioactive waste, the U.S. Department of Energy has proposed reprocessing spent fuel in this way and then “burning” the plutonium in special reactors.
But reprocessing is very expensive. Also, spent fuel emits lethal radiation, whereas separated plutonium can be handled easily. So reprocessing invites the possibility that terrorists might steal plutonium and construct an atom bomb.
The author argues against reprocessing and for storing the waste in casks until an underground repository is ready.


edit to add:
The 2003 MIT report "The Future of Nuclear Energy" came to the same conclusion:

The study offers a number of recommendations for making the nuclear energy option viable, including:
Placing increased emphasis on the once-through fuel cycle as best meeting the criteria of low costs and proliferation resistance;
...
http://web.mit.edu/nuclearpower/


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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:31 AM
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7. Sort of, but he's also not very enthusiastic about storage.
Maybe I misread his tone, but I was left with an impression of "Well, if we run it once-through, it's highly radioactive and dangerous, but at least that makes it hard to steal!"

Meanwhile, he seems to be a Yucca Mtn opponent, which leaves me wondering, as always, what hypothetical storage site will eventually be considered agreeable.

:shrug:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:45 AM
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8. By not recycling it makes it harder to use in a nefarious way
The thing is no one wants it in their own back yard and I suspect that when it comes right down to the nutcutting you wouldn't either. Only one other person I've read about that would and you have to take that with a grain of salt cause this person constantly lies like george w bush does, who will say anything to push their own ideas
Yucca mountain is not the answer to the waste storage very real and very dangerous problem
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:53 PM
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9. Agreed: I don't want nuclear waste in my backyard.
Especially if you mean my literal back yard, as opposed to some broader definition of "nearby."

Then again, I also don't want this energy-industry waste in my backyard, and I assume you don't either:

Nobody wants the waste from our energy sources in our backyard. Mostly, it either ends up in our air, water, landfills, or it ends up in poor people's backyard. For that matter, the landfills are mostly in poor people's back yards. China has essentially based its entire economy on being the world's backyard landfill, embodied pollution importer and purveyor of underpaid labor in a big Faustian bargain for economic growth.

So, when it comes right down to the nutcutting, where does the "back yard" argument leave us? We're making the waste. If it isn't nuclear waste, it will be some other kind. Where shall we put it?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:30 PM
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13. The nuclear waste is alarming in the fact it is so radioactively dangerous
and that makes it very difficult to deal with in a long time safe manner. The waste from the manufacturing of solar panels should be here in America so we can deal with it in a sane and safe manner rather than farming it out to China companies. Its not the technology thats at fault in this its the money people involved who are. Solar panels can be made in an environmentally safe way, it just cost more. I wish we could have what nuclear promises on the surface but I've already scratched that surface and didn't like the looks of the blood I was seeing coursing through its veins.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:08 PM
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10. Just wondered, but how far is Yucca mt. from where they're experiencing earthquake tremors in Nev?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:23 PM
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11. Beats me. Would you like to put it somewhere else?
I'm not a geologist. If there's some better place to put it, I don't have a problem with that.

Personally, I hate the idea of throwing away 90% of the fuel's energy by not reusing it. So I hope that wherever it goes, we maintain the option of getting it back again.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:20 PM
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12. I think it's pretty far, but
Nevada as a whole is a VERY seismically active state.

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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:35 AM
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28. 2 seconds on Google yields your answer...
I'd say within spitting distance. The entire state is the third most seismically active after Alaska and California, so chances are good that the site will get earthquake damage FAR sooner than 10,000 years...

http://www.state.nv.us/nucwaste/yucca/seismo01.htm

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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:28 PM
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15. This is a catchall reply to everyone.
This whole argument is based on the premise that all future forms of nuclear power will come from reactors which are essentially nothing more than refinements of the original idea of piling up enough fuel in the one place for it to 'ignite' in a spontaneous chain reaction and then dancing along a razor's edge keeping that reaction going, whilst not allowing it to run out of control as happened at Chernobyl.

Now sixty odd years of experience demonstrates that we can dance the dance, with only the occasional misstep. And before anyone argues that Chernobyl wasn't a misstep, allow me to agree with them. Chernobyl was an idiot tossing a bag of marbles onto the dance floor.

Furthermore we now know how to design reactors so as to avoid even the small missteps that have taken place in the past. And even to catch the marbles before they spill under the dancer's feet.

As a matter of simple statistics it is easy to demonstrate that conventional fossil fueled power plants kill enormously more people per gigawatt generated than do nuclear power plants. Yes a deformed baby is an horrific thing, but so too is hundreds of children dying each year of respiratory illnesses. And yet the latter seems to be a price we willingly pay to keep our SUVs on the roads and the crap on our sixty inch plasma televisions turning our minds to pulp.


However, piling up the fuel in one place is no longer the only option available to us. Conventional designs all rely on the fact that splitting atoms, causes a certain number of neutrons to spill free and go on to split more atoms. Hence the term "chain reaction".

Today, there exist ways of generating controllable streams of neutrons that could be used to burn nuclear fuels in small amounts. Quantities so small that there is no conceivable process that would allow the reaction to get out of control. And it's scalable, from kilowatts to megawatts.

As an added bonus, exactly the same streams of neutrons can be used to 'incinerate' nuclear waste, rendering it radiologically harmless. It might remain chemically poisonous, but no more so than any other industrial waste product.


A second premise in this argument is that at some stage in the processing or reprocessing of nuclear fuels, certain materials will be present in a form that would allow for the construction of a nuclear device by relatively unsophisticated people/organisations if they were to get their hands on it.

This is bullshit. The only reason to separate plutonium out in a pure form is to allow for the diversion of some of it for weapons production. Mixed transuranics (elements beyond uranium, of which plutonium is only one) will burn quite nicely in a properly designed reactor. Conceivably they could be made to cause a melt down with sufficient mismanagement and/or deliberate intervention, but they WILL NOT explode. And the separation of something that will explode from such a mix is a highly sophisticated process, that is very unlikely to be available to terrorist oganisations or individuals pissed of at the world.


The whole booga booga about nuclear energy has us fixating on what might possibly happen if certain worst case scenarios were to eventuate, whilst we conveniently ignore what most definitely does happen every single day in the process of making electrons flow out of one hole in the wall, through some often useless piece of kit and back into another.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:49 PM
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16. You're like a kinder, gentler NNadir.
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 09:50 PM by Gentle Giant
But don't worry, you'll be ignored by certain elements here just as much.

:eyes:

On edit - Just to clarify: I don't mean myself. I'm too smart for that. :)
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:45 AM
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20. No, he's a kinder dumber NNadir
He read something somewhere but he can't find it anymore:

I just did a quick Google on neutron beam accelerators + transmutation and didn't recognise anything as being obviously related to the original article I mentioned.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=128182&mesg_id=128588


But he's a true believer anyway!
Neutron beams will save us!!!

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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:03 AM
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22. No! Solar will save us!!!!11!!!
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:45 PM
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25. Nice selective quoting.
Puts you right up there with fundie creationists.

Next time finish the paragraph: "... However, there's still a lot of interesting info to be found."

I could find the original article, if I could be bothered unpacking and leafing through several hundred magazines. But I don't really need to, I could piece together enough from the web articles I did find to know that the beams have been generated and that there are no obvious reasons why such a beam generator shouldn't be arbitrarily scalable.

Neutron beams could very easily save us. If and it's a very big if, the DoD hasn't decided it's a better way of making plutonium (which it is) and black holed it for military applications, like they did with NASAs SCRAM jet.
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:18 PM
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17. "You'll get pie in the sky when you die--
"That's a lie!"
Joe Hill
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:39 AM
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19. Wrong - everything you said confirms what von Hippel wrote.
If you really believe in these neutron beam vaporware,
then von Hippel is correct - the Bush administration proposals for recycling are an expensive boondoggle,
the best thing to do is keep the waste onsite until the neutron beams come to save us.
The inventor of this neutron beam technology has moved on to solar energy,
which I pointed out to you several months ago: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=128182&mesg_id=128603



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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:06 AM
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27. FWIW
> Today, there exist ways of generating controllable streams of neutrons
> that could be used to burn nuclear fuels in small amounts. Quantities so
> small that there is no conceivable process that would allow the reaction
> to get out of control. And it's scalable, from kilowatts to megawatts.

I also recall reading an article via this (or possibly the Science) forum
which showed a prototype setup that did this.

Just thought I'd reassure certain people that you weren't imagining it ... :hi:

I've only had a quick google but the most recent articles I can see so far
date from 1998 so I'm obviously using the wrong search strings.
:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:53 PM
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:51 AM
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21. Again, that just confirms von Hippels conclusions
which as I pointed out upthread were also concluded by the 2003 MIT report "The Future of Nuclear Energy".
Apparently you are now claiming that it is better to build CANDU reactors instead of the expensive recycling fast burner vaporware the Bush misadministration is proposing.
In that case, building Bush's fast burners is nothing but an expensive boondoggle,
and it is better just to keep the waste onsite until the CANDUs are built.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:46 PM
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:39 AM
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23. boo-frickin-hoo
von Hippel knows more about the subject than yer common autodiacticle internets nuclucar hobbyist.

and he's right

:evilgrin:


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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:44 AM
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24. I'll bite: what is a DUPIC fuel cycle?
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:57 AM
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29. I have to say for a learned man, von Hippel doesn't seem to know anything about the criticisms...
Edited on Fri May-16-08 04:02 AM by DRoseDARs
...leveled against the proposed Yucca Mountain site. I found this paragraph from the article to be an astonishing admission of ignorance and just plain stupidity on von Hippel's part:

"Demonstrating safety that far into the future is not easy, but the risks from even a badly designed repository are negligible in comparison with those from a policy that would make nuclear weapons materials more accessible. From this perspective, it is difficult to understand why the danger of local radioactive pollution 100,000 or a million years hence has generated so much more political passion in the U.S. than the continuing imminent danger from nuclear weapons."

He then posits that our (Nevadans) problem is that this was Pres. Reagan's idea to begin with to screw Nevada by ending consideration of other sites. Oh, and that we have a preoccupation with the future 100,000 to one million years from now. Um, no. Our problem is that the site is seismically active (the whole state is third after Alaska and California) and will face innumerable events between now and God knows when; the site WILL suffer earthquake related damage within our lifetimes, within our children's lifetimes, within our grand-children's lifetimes, within their children's lifetimes and so on. Our other problem (as well as everyone else's problem) is that spent fuel now currently stored throughout the country (and even some waste shipped in from OTHER countries) will have to be shipped through the country to reach Yucca Mountain. It won't just MAGICALLY appear there, it will have to travel by freight truck, by railcar and by barge in some places and guess what, that stuff will have to pass through populated areas. Trucks crash, trains derail, and ships sink. von Hippel's dismissal of these arguments, not even mentioning them in the article despite having ample space (the article is 6 printed pages long) to do so, is amazing to me coming from a scientist and suggests to me that he's a shill for the Bush Administration and/or the nuclear industry.



Edit: Sorry 'bout the 2 wk late post, I just picked up the article and read it, was Googling this von Hippel schmuck and found this thread. As a Nevadan, I just had to read it and this guy really bugged me for his dismissal of us and our concerns.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 11:23 AM
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30. Good point-counterpoint between von Hipple & Peterson
Edited on Sat May-17-08 11:24 AM by kristopher
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/sci;294/5549/2093c

Science 7 December 2001:
Vol. 294. no. 5549, pp. 2093 - 2094
DOI: 10.1126/science.294.5549.2093c

Letters
The Pros and Cons of Nuclear Fuel Recycling
In "plutonium and the reprocessing of spent nuclear fuel" (Policy Forum, Science's Compass, 28 Sept., p. 2397), Frank N. von Hippel reiterates the standard arguments against reprocessing in response to the National Energy Policy Development Group report that advocates a reexamination of U.S. policies on reprocessing R&D. The report also states that "the United States will continue to discourage the accumulation of separated plutonium worldwide" (1). Most of us who advocate a resumption of U.S. R&D in advanced reprocessing and remote fuel fabrication methods that avoid plutonium separation agree.

All fuel cycles must use enrichment or reprocessing, and both technologies provide routes to proliferation. There currently exists a 30% global excess of enrichment capacity, and any nation acquiring enrichment facilities today appears suspicious on economic grounds. This situation will reverse in the next two decades as U.S. gaseous diffusion enrichment plants retire and as current excess military and civilian enriched uranium supplies are consumed.

The natural trajectory for enrichment technology is toward methods that are more efficient and therefore easier to conceal; for reprocessing, it is toward methods that make the waste stream as clean as possible and the fuel quite dirty and therefore hard to steal. Thus, the emergence of a global market for new enrichment technologies and services deserves concern, particularly at the scale implied by the use of seawater uranium for the expansion of once-through reactor systems.

These concerns also relate to storage issues. Only a few long-term methods can be envisioned for managing nuclear waste. The strategy of highly dispersed and protracted surface storage may continue indefinitely. Conversely, a small number of geologic repositories might be sited to take this waste. I doubt we will site a "mega-repository" capable of holding centuries of global spent fuel, such as the proposed Pangea site in Australia, or that tens or hundreds of repositories will ever be sited worldwide. Thus, for sustainable fission energy production, the scarce resource will not be uranium, but will almost certainly be repository capacity.

Decay heat creates the fundamental limitation on repository capacity. For spent fuel, the fission products--137Cs and 90Sr with half-lives of 30 years--generate roughly half of the total repository heat load. The actinides--principally the heavy elements 241Am (458 years) and 238Pu (86 years)--provide the other half. We can actively manage the fission product heat. For example, in unsaturated media like Yucca Mountain, the simple ventilation of the drift tunnels would recover ~50% of the repository thermal capacity every 30 years. But we cannot actively manage the actinide heat, which is deposited over too long a time. This is why, in the longer term, it will likely make economic sense to recycle actinides back into reactors, and why it is correct and appropriate for the United States to develop new technologies for this purpose.

The broad adoption of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty can be credited in large part to the commercial potential seen in nuclear energy. Our development of new fission-energy systems that better manage their waste streams could create new incentives for broad adoption of even more rigorous international norms: in particular, comprehensive International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Safeguards Agreements that include an Additional Protocol, which, when adopted by a nation, allows IAEA inspections anywhere within that country to confirm the absence of undeclared nuclear activities (2). This creates a worthy goal for future nuclear energy R&D.

Per F. Peterson
Department of Nuclear Engineering,
University of California,
Berkeley, CA 94720-1730, USA.
E-mail: [email protected]

References and Notes

1. National Energy Policy (The White House, May 2001). Available at www.whitehouse.gov
2. Additional Protocols are now in force in 22 nations: http://www.iaea.or.at/worldatom/Programmes/Safeguards/sg_protocol.shtml

Response

Peterson's nightmare is different from my own. Mine is that the Bush Administration is undercutting the more than two-decade-old campaign to end civilian commerce in weapon-usable plutonium just when that campaign is on the verge of success. Britain, France, Russia, Japan, and India are still separating annually more than 20,000 kg of pure plutonium from spent fuel--enough for at least 2500 nuclear explosives--but, in fact, deregulated utilities are becoming more resistant to subsidizing these uneconomic programs.

Peterson worries about the challenge of siting "tens or hundreds" of deep underground respositories for spent fuel in the United States. But it would take hundreds of years for any such problem to develop. The proposed Yucca Mountain repository would hold about as much spent fuel as will be discharged over the lifetimes of the ~100 nuclear power plants in the United States. Because of a lack of utility interest, there has not been a construction permit for a new nuclear power reactor issued in the United States since 1979 (1). Worldwide nuclear capacity is ~3.5 times that of the United States' and is projected to stay about constant for the next 20 years as a result of a combination of modest growth in the developing world and decline in the industrialized world (2).

Peterson is right about the danger of the proliferation of small-scale uranium enrichment technology. Pakistan produced its weapon-grade uranium using technology acquired by A. Q. Khan while he worked in the Urenco commercial centrifuge enrichment plant in the Netherlands (3). Khan returned to Pakistan and built an enrichment plant reportedly based on Urenco designs (4). However, the fuel used in most of the world's nuclear-power reactors is low-enriched and not weapons useable. In contrast, commercial spent-fuel reprocessing technology produces pure plutonium directly useable for the production of nuclear weapons.

In short, my objections to the proposal to launch a new U.S. reprocessing R&D initiative are: (i) reprocessing is not needed within this century, and (ii) the Bush Administration proposal is being greeted by foreign reprocessing establishments as a rollback of U.S. opposition to commerce in plutonium.

Frank N. von Hippel
Department of Public and International Affairs,
Princeton University,
Princeton, NJ 08550, USA
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31. We don't need to recycle it. We can just dump it all in
NNadir's back yard, since he thinks it's harmless.
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