ROFLMAO! Ah-nold Talks About Converting His Hummer to Hydrogen

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Schwarzenegger Becomes the GOP's Green Candidate
He's in step with many voters, but not Bush, on environment. He may retrofit his Hummer
By Kenneth R. Weiss and Miguel Bustillo
Times Staff Writers
September 7, 2003

"Arnold Schwarzenegger, long associated with one of the least environmentally friendly cars, is talking about retrofitting his Hummer to run on clean-burning hydrogen. The move is symbolic of a platform intended to appeal to voters in a state that has been at the forefront of environmental protection.

With Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (ed. - WTF!?!?), one of the nation's most prominent environmental activists and a cousin of Schwarzenegger's wife, advising him on strategy, the film star is crafting a set of positions at odds with the Bush administration on a broad range of issues, from logging in the Sierra Nevada to controlling greenhouse gases from cars and trucks.

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Peter V. Ueberroth, for example, has distanced himself from a new state law, embraced by Schwarzenegger, that will require cars and trucks to emit less ca4rbon dioxide to combat global warming. Ueberroth argues that the new pollution controls 'would make automobile ownership more expensive.'

Further to the right, Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock ridicules the law that targets global warming. He defends the rights of timber companies to harvest trees as they see fit on their own land and has publicly called for disbanding the California Coastal Commission, which regulates seaside development."

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[Kolesar]

1. This is what happens when pinheads get into politics

Remember when Reagan said trees cause smog "look at those Smokey Mountains in Tennessee!".

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. chuckle

Shame on you. :hi: ;-)

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2. And meanwhile...

he's going to clear up $28 billion shortfall by cutting programs. Maybe he needs to consult Siegfried and Roy on that one...

[rwork]

3. All seven

of them.

[midnight armadillo]

5. hydrogen in an ICE

Hydrogen can be retrofitted into a gasoline internal combustion engine without TOO much effort...but...it still pollutes since you get some nitrogen compounds and the like, but not too bad.

Pollution aside, what on earth is the point of a Hummer getting the same shitty mileage on hydrogen (what would you measure it in, miles per kg of gas?) that comes from natural gas, oil, or coal? It won't solve the intrinsic issue that you don't need a 6,000 lump of steel with decades-old engine technology to manage the LA streets. This is nothing more than stupid, condescending greenwashing.

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6. A taste of what H2 in ICE is like...

From a discussion on Tour de Sol 2003 contestants:

""Mr Dude had driven his hydrogen powered, multi fuel vehicle across country with Dennis Weaver and the H2 proponents in Drive to Survive. Mr. Dude left the pacific coast on H2, switched to another fossil petroleum fuel shortly thereafter, with occasional "puffs" of H2 for added power in the hills. He then proudly switched back to H2 for the final few miles to the Capitol display area. We were stopped at a light in downtown DC when I heard the absolutely loudest backfire I have ever heard. I looked in my side view mirror and there was Mr. Dude's vehicle with an ominous appearing black cloud coming out from under his hood. The light went green and there he sat cranking it over trying to get it to restart. He did manage to get through and on display.
BTW, the B100 (biodiesel) Dodge pick-up had to carry those H2 tanks as they wouldn't fit in Mr. Dude's ride.""

http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=865&whichpage=6

There you have it! 'Dudes' of the world, including Ahhnold and Dubya, prefer hydrogen. The above commentary is from the Tour de Sol winner.

[Kolesar]

7. H2 in an H2?

Good responses, midnight and cprise. I had never considered that H2 could be used as fuel in an ICE. Where does the nitrogen come from though? Is it atmospheric nitrogen?

[cprise]

8. Yes

It's atmospheric, since that's where the oxygen comes from.