Dramatic Footage of Fossil Fuels Diverted to Make Weapons Leads to Calls For Fossil Fuel Bans.

[NNadir]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vky9T0ZyULU&NR=1

Just kidding. Most people couldn't care less if dangerous fossil fuels are diverted for military use.

The events here pictured are not weapons tests. They are actual examples of dangerous fossil fuel war.

The following devices use dangerous fossil fuels:

Tanks.

Transports.

Fighter Aircraft.

B-1 Bombers

B-52 bombers.

Napalm bombs.

Anti-aircraft missiles.

Intercontinental missiles...

[Zenlitened]

1. You forgot the 'satire' smiley.

Oh, wait... no you didn't. :crazy:

[NNadir]

2. Speaking only for myself, I'm quite serious about calling for dangerous fossil fuel bans.

[Zenlitened]

3. Honestly, I don't see that seriousness reflected in posts claiming...

..."many people" don't care about power plant emissions or the military-industrial complex.

:shrug:

[NNadir]

4. Too bad. They are quite serious. I regard fossil fuels as extremely dangerous.

Dangerous fossil fuel waste is destroying the earth's atmosphere. No permanent repository is planned and no such facility is funded. It is believed that any such facilities on a meaningful scale would cost trillions of dollars.

I can't imagine why any one would think this is not a serious issue and that is a joke. Habit maybe?

[Zenlitened]

5. Who are these people who don't think fossil fuel use is a serious issue?

:shrug:

[phantom power]

6. Let's not forget the military applications of thermal solar...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Archimedes_Heat_Ray_conceptual_diagram.png

[NNadir]

7. Solar Thermal was first developed by Archimedes to attack Roman Warships.

The idea was tested at MIT to check if was really possible that Archimedes did was the legends claimed.



http://web.mit.edu/2.009/www/experiments/deathray/10_ArchimedesResult.html

An army that ran on solar electricity today wouldn't get very far. Almost all of the energy produced by solar electricity is consumed to run websites saying how great solar energy is. Very little is left over for any other purpose. Therefore solar energy his harmless in the military sense.

It is not socially harmless, since it encourages the kind of talismanic wishful thinking that leads to undue complacency. This complacency causes death and injury by allowing the extremely status quo to exist while people wait, Estragon-like for the grand solar future that never comes.

[phantom power]

8. Heh. My broken link was to another picture of Archimedes' invention.

PV is also used extensively on military satellites. Applying "bananas lexical-associative logic theory," I conclude that PV is evil, and that all smelted silicon must be sintered in ceramic and sequestered forever underground.

It's the only way to be sure.

[NNadir]

9. To be honest, I had not thought of that application.

Let's be fair though. In space based applications, solar energy rules, unless you're going to Saturn or some place like that.

It's sort of amazing that even though the first solar powered satellite was launched in 1958, there still isn't an exajoule of solar electricity on earth.

We nuke guys have to admit too, that since the plutonium powered Cassini craft got to Saturn, there has been no evidence of a single living thing surviving there. The same holds true for Uranus and Neptune, both of which have been visited by plutonium powered spacecraft.

I expect an invasion from somewhere in the Milky Way, since plutonium powered spacecraft have been sent out of our solar system.

[One_Life_To_Give]

10. Your Forgeting DaisyCutters and MOABs

The two largest bombs ever created are fuel air explosives.

[NNadir]

11. Really?

I never heard of them.

With all of the environmental activism here, one would think I would hear about these bombs all the time. Many people here have an energy critiria that says if even in theory, a technology has a potential war use, it must be banned.

Thus I am surprised that there haven't been any calls from "environmentalists" here calling for the banning of dangerous fossil fuels because of "Daisy Cutters" and MOABs.


Maybe people couldn't care less, I don't know.

I do know that the largest bombings in history, bombings killing hundreds of thousands of people in a single night, involved dangerous fossil fuels.

The international outrage over Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, has led to many calls for dangerous fossil fuel bans I would suppose, although one hardly hears of them.

My main reason for calling for dangerous fossil fuels is the environmental cost of dumping dangerous fossil fuel waste but I have been concerned about dangerous fossil fuel war, especially wars caused by dangerous fossil fuels, including the war between two prominent Pacific nations between 1941 (Dec 7) and 1945 (Sept 1.) Many millions of people died in that particular dangerous fossil fuel war, which (as a minor side point) was also a nuclear war, the only nuclear war.

I also object to dangerous fossil fuels because of dangerous fossil fuel accidents, which kill fairly regularly. For instance, people just cant stop talking about the Piper Alpha One disaster - familiar to all citizens on earth - in which a dangerous fossil fuel platform in the North Sea exploded killing 187 people, or the Skida natural gas explosion (20 dead), or the Texas City refinery explosion (15 dead) or...

Many dangerous fossil fuel electricity generating stations produce very expensive electricity, not quite as expensive as solar electricity, but definitely "up there." The exception would be dangerous coal, which - because one can dump dangerous fossil fuel waste without restriction or charge - is roughly priced the same as its only competitor, the competitor being required by law to keep all of its used fuel on site.

[Dogmudgeon]

12. It's been a bad week or two for the fossil fuel industry

Breaking in the news is some kind of major fuel explosion in Dallas.

Then there was the Texas City explosion, which attracted only minor attention here, but killed 14 people the last I saw; the transformer/steam explosion in NYC; and more trouble in Russia with Lukoil. (A pipeline "incident" of same kind?) And that's just what I ran into. I have not made a search.

I've heard nothing from Japan. Do you think anyone survived there? They say that Niigata prefecture may be uninhabitable for 26,933 years, 11 months, and 16 days, but the Paid Shills are probably just saying that because Dick Cheney told them to.

But that's pretty mundane stuff. I heard that Britney is dating the bassist from the Paid Shills. Now that's NEWS.

--p!