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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:46 PM
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PLEASE Break The Bottled Water Habit!
Did you know that: - bottled water contributes to global warming?
1- bottled water is less safe than our tap water?
2- bottled water creates mountains of waste?

Do something simple to help save the Earth. Ask 10 friends to Break the Habit. The bottled water habit, that is. Join us as we break the bottled water habit.

P.S. Upscale restaurants like the famous Chez Panisse in Berkeley, California are making the switch to tap water3--you can too!

<1> It takes more than 47 million gallons of oil to produce plastic water bottles for Americans every year. Eliminating those bottles would be like taking 100,000 cars off the road and 1 billion pounds of carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.
"The Real Cost of Bottled Water" San Francisco Chronicle, February 18, 2007
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronic... <[br />
2] The Environmental Protection Agency requires rigorous testing of tap water to ensure quality. Both regulation and enforcement of bottled water safety is weaker than that of tap water safety. Olson, Erik D. et al.
"Bottled Water: Pure Drink or Pure Hype?" Natural Resources Defense Council<3> "Upscale Restaurants Shun Bottled Water" ABC News, March 29, 2007
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2990824


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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:50 PM
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1. Sorry, but I keep 10 cases of Zephyrhills in my garage.
It's called hurricane supplies.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:52 PM
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7. I understand that
Personally, I store water in recycled gallon jugs.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:54 PM
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10. Roger that teammate
bottle water stocked for the next big one, MRE's, batteries, flashlights, everything automatic and close at hand. I "hear" the original poster but I wanna us to live if and when the power goes out next time (for weeks and weeks) because of some katrina like bitch.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:16 PM
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16. I have a 30 gallon blue barrel of tap water in MY garage. It's called
earthquake supplies. I have the plastic pumper thingie to pump it out with, too.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:28 PM
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21. Hurricane supplies dont count in my book. you are not throwing the bottles away.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:54 AM
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40. Keep a water purifier too just in case
or maybe a filter and some way of boiling it that doesn't require electricity. There are UV pens you can stick in some clear (not muddy) water to kill the germs in under a minute.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:50 PM
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2. I use Brita filtered water, keep the glass Snapple bottles, and
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 02:52 PM by no_hypocrisy
fill them up every day. I don't buy bottled water at all.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:51 PM
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4. Same here... Brita filter and reuse the bottles from soda
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:57 PM
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12. Please check out the leaching effect in reusing plastic bottles
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:18 PM
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29. Snopes says that claim is false
Your first link links to a statement by Dr. Weil that references the debunked study.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/petbottles.asp
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:37 AM
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39. I agree, BUT more importantly, these studies prove something MUCH more HORRIFYING...
Estrogenic effects of plastics
http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Monomers/BPA-Prostate-...

Estrogen mimic (plastic) provokes insulin resistance
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20060121/fob4.asp

Endocrine disruption of the ocean's food chains
http://www.algalita.org/videos.html

Estrogenic compounds (theoretically) cause fetal deformitites in humans.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0502544102v1


I'll have to admit to liking to freeze water in my few plastic bottles and using them as ice packs for food, then drinking the water as it melts (and then reusing the bottle (I've had some of them for up to a year at a time). But we store EVERYTHING in enamel storage containers or in glass. When we HAVE to use plastic "tupperware" (recycled Thai soup containers)for "dry" stuff we line it with good old waxed paper then store in the fridge.



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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:40 PM
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24. Another Brita fan here.
Our tap water is so awful, I don't even give it to the kitties. Hey, folks, DON'T store in plastic! We are also in earthquake country, and given a power outage in mid-winter at 40 or so below can kill you, I always have stored water on hand. But I use glass (recycled from iced tea etc.).

I learned to conserve water years ago when we lived way out and the only available water was from a tank - it had to be trucked in. Fastest showers in the north, here!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:06 AM
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42. One more Brita fan, but I wouldn't reuse those glass bottles
I've noticed that glass bottles get mold under the cap. So I use a plastic bottle like this one:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:51 PM
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3. I filter my water at home,
then put it through an oxygenizer/magnetiser. It tastes great and is very different from regular filtered water. Even my cat prefers it to regular filtered water. Anyway, I have a liter water jug I carry around with me everywhere with this water in it. No need for buying bottled water that way.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:51 PM
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5. This is something people need to cut back on
I used a refillable water bottle (like those for cyclists) at work. I fill it up at the water fountain. At home I use a Brita water filter and it makes tap water good.

The only place where I do drink bottled water is when I'm visiting my grandfather. The water down there tastes horrible. Even if it's filtered it's still really nasty.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:18 PM
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20. That describes the water goings on at our house too. n/t
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:52 PM
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6. Where I live the arsenic levels are extremely high
not to mention the fact that the water table has suffered from herbicides and pesticides for many, many decades. The water is yellow to brown, contains large amounts of sulfur, giving it a nasty rotten egg smell

The San Joaquin Valley is an agricultural area so large it feeds the world. There have been days in places past where I have lived here that I had to leave due to the overwhelming mount of poison in the air from spraying.

Even my grandchildren are not allowed to drink the water here. My dog has bottled water, too.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:53 PM
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8. You might wish to look into a high quality filter
there are many on the market, and they pay for themselves very quickly.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:58 PM
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13. sure..as soon as I have more money than living hand-to-mouth
with staying on the Internet also a life connecting priority :hi:
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:41 PM
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34. I think this may be a beter alternative.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:53 PM
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9. Bottled water Joke
I have to drink bottler water because my home town's water table is polluted by the plastic bottle manufacturer. Hey, it brought jobs into the town, now 55% of the population works in the new Cancer Research facility built by the plastic bottle manufacturer as part of the settlement monies!
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:54 PM
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11. I work outdoors
and as such, drink bottled water. Sometimes, it is just not possible to drink tap. At work, it's either bottled water or pop. Water generally wins out. Now at home, I never drink bottled. Mississippi highballs are just fine. But as stated, at work, where it can get hot, it has to be bottled water, although there is a company which delivers the five gallon jugs of water, and presumably reuses the jugs. Sometimes, we just fill pop cans or old water bottles and use them.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:01 PM
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14. Would YOU like to get my 87-year-old mother to drink up to 64 oz of ANYTHING but Propel???
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 03:04 PM by TahitiNut
Anything alcoholic is prohibited. Caffeine (including colas) is strongly discouraged. Water. Water. Water.

Yes, I even got her a Brita pitcher. :shrug:

Personally, I'd NEVER buy bottled water ... except occasionally a bottle of Evian in France.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:10 PM
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15. My habits involve bottled water, but only in combination with barley, hops and yeast.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:52 PM
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17. Help me understand why bottled water is the enemy and.....
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 03:55 PM by kansasblue


Help me understand why bottled water is the enemy and.....and bottled soda is not.


This is all friendly and I'm ready to learn with an open mind BUT....

They are both water. One is flavored. Both drinkable.

Why is water getting beat up on? Why not: "When you are at a restaurant please don't order a coke." No sodas! Switch to tap water!

When someone can explain this discrimination against those of us who drink water instead of Coke then I'll consider joining the fight.

thanks!

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:30 PM
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22. At restaurants...

Soda comes from the tap water run through the fountain, carbonated, and mixed with the syrup, so there is no bottle involved.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:13 PM
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28. Think tap water ....
and then think bottled water. Where do you get tap water....and what do you put it in? Are you able to get a soda out of the faucet at home...no. But you can get tap water out of the faucet...and when you do, you can put it in a reusable container....a glass or something like this........

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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:04 AM
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41. you can get soda at home
carbonaters are not that expensive. You can just mix the carbonated water with the syrup like every soda fountain already does.

In India, most middle class houses have electric water filters (for the germs) and carbonaters (to make club soda).
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:38 AM
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44. I fully understand that...... I have seen them...
I said in my post............."Are you able to get a soda out of the faucet at home...no."......... I'm not aware of any normal faucet that dispenses soda. Perhaps there are some, but I'm not aware of any.

The point of the OP and my post is people are able to use tap water or filtered tap water without using bottled water...and in turn, helping the environment. Needless to say, if a person's tap water is not safe, then obviously it goes without question they shouldn't drink it.
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:58 AM
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35. No discrimination really here...
Its just that bottled water is a huge habit here in America, and one which, more than bottled soda (which your average joe cannot manufacture at home) is so completely unnecessary.

Just because folks are concerned about bottled water doesn't mean they aren't also concerned about soda. I myself am trying to cut down on my own consumption (I prefer diet Dr Pepper, for what its worth...sweetened with that yummy, aspartamey, Rumsfeldy goodness) and drink simply water and coffee. Long time habits are so very hard to break though.

We're picking our battles, is what some of us are doing here. Try not to take it so personally. And don't drink so much damn' bottled water (except of course what you store back for emergencies)!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:53 PM
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18. Been drinking from the tap all my life....
...and I'm not about to drink plastic-flavored water!!!

K&R
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:09 AM
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43. my parents' well water is the greatest water I've ever had in my life
I drank it all my life. City water sucks so I've been using Brita pitchers to filter out the crud from the dirty pipes for the last 6 years. I don't like pipe-flavored water, but I definitely don't want to buy something in a bottle if it comes out of my tap for much less.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:58 PM
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19. The only bottled water I keep around (several cases) is for emergencies
in the wake of a possible natural disaster. I also keep a portable stove around in case I have to boil the tap water first.

Otherwise, I use tap water at home. Where I live, in the NYC metro area, the tap water is considered some of the safest and best-tasting in the country (sourced from the Hudson Valley and the Catskill Mountains).

:shrug:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:38 PM
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23. I bought one last year. I just fill it a couple of times a day with Bull Run!
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:00 AM
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36. Ahh, yes, Cool, Sweet Portland water
We Portlanders are more fortunate than most, that's for certain.

The only thing added to Bull Run water is something the gummint tells Portland to put in there to cut down the acidity a little bit.

Just as long as Mount Hood doesn't erupt, we'll be okay... :D
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:41 PM
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25. What do you mean by bottled water?
I will NOT drink the local tap water - it is disgusting. I drink bottled water brought to my house in the extra HUGE water bottles (5 gallon); then I fill my stainless steel cup repeatedly. And, I drink distilled water for health reasons.

My distributor states that those huge bottles are used again and again.

I've taken major steps in the past year. We drive Priuses, when we drive at all. We have fixed it so that we both work out of the home. Not only do we recycle, we have minimized our use of paper plates (etc.), with the exception of paper products made by the "Stalk Market" (guaranteed to decompose quickly, composed of recycled materials).

BUT - I will NOT drink the local tap water. We've actually been warned not to.

Are you talking about the smaller water bottles, that do not sit atop a dispenser?
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:47 PM
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47. Evian, Dasani, Aquafina, and suchlike
The smaller water bottles is what I think we mean...the "branded" bottled waters, things like Dasani, Poland Spring, Fiji...stuff like that.

I don't think anyone expects anyone to give up drinking bottled water where that's the only practical alternative to safe, drinkable water, just where you have perfectly fine and healthful tap water (and people would be surprised how available that is...even in places like New York City).


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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:41 PM
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26. I filter the chlorine, etc. out of my tap water and use stainless steel
bottles in my car and beach bag to avoid the xeno-estrogens from plastic bottles.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:07 PM
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27. I also use stainless steel and so does the rest of my family
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:49 PM
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31. how difficult are those to clean, are they good for every day ? (to office etc)
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 08:43 PM
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32. I just put water in them so it's not difficult at all....
I normally just put it in the dishwasher with the rest of the dishes, or just rinse it out. I've had it for quite a while and never had a problem.
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Help me help Earth Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:18 PM
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30. This is a great tip!
I have an organic, cruelty free wine skin I store my water in!
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:10 PM
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33. I fill my water bottle from a Brita pitcher & a drinking fountain
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 06:43 AM
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37. Done 2 months ago. We got a Brita pitcher.
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 06:44 AM by Pooka Fey
I just need to find the info for recycling the cartridges (on my to-do list) :-)
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 06:54 AM
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38. Not to mention:
Privatization of water (especially water springs) is a potentially dangerous thing. Look at what Pepsi and Coca-Cola did to India.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:42 PM
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45. sorry no can do..I'm a water drinker to the nth degree and our city
water is absolutely disgusting! I can not afford the brita filters (tried them, had to change them so often it was not cost effective)I get my water from a company that recycles their bottles. :dilemma:
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:40 PM
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46. You have to do this, in some places
I think everybody must know this, but it does have to be said...in some places (Phoenix comes to mind) the tap water is simply horrible and so hard that you can bounce a rock off it...loaded with minerals, unhealthful, and just plain appallingly bad.

There are some areas of even our country where bottled water is a necessity, not a luxury.

My hope is that people in areas that don't have to drink bottled water except as a luxury treat that thing as a luxury, and not a foregone conclusion for daily life.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 09:26 PM
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48. I never got the bottled water habit in the first place.
I'm amazed at how many people swear tap water = death.

If so, I'd have died a million times over by now.
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