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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:04 AM
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Oil at $80/barrel=recession
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/francis/archiv...

The turmoil since August 2007 has not been blamed directly on oil prices but theres a link.

The US has experienced six recessions since 1972. At least five of these were associated with oil prices. In every case, when oil consumption in the US reached 4% percent of GDP, the U.S. went into recession. Right now, 4% of GDP is US$80 a barrel oil. So my current view is that if the oil price exceeds US$80, then expect the U.S. to fall back into recession, wrote Steven Kopits, managing director for U.K.-based energy-consulting and -research firm Douglas-Westwood LLC in New York.

Kopits is a poster boy on all the peak oil websites and doomsayer blogs, and his metric on the link between recessions and oil price is interesting. If Kopits is correct, so much for green shoots. They will be trampled under foot over and over again unless there is a sudden spike upwards in GDP growth disproportionally more so than oil price increases.Here is the roller-coaster cycle he points out: Higher oil prices mean recessions, recessions mean less consumption then lower oil prices which leads to less exploration and supply which leads to higher oil prices and recession...
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:07 AM
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1. we're always doomed
no matter what.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:14 AM
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2. How greedy are those who control the price?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:23 AM
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3. It's a symptom
the disease is debt, with serious complications from a widespread infection of corruption.
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LeftHandPath Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:36 PM
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4. Exactly right notes...
The US is the global reserve currency.

As the dollar continues is collapse, commodities priced in those dollars will be used to hedge the falling currency values.

There is no escaping the math of compounding interest on our enormous and ever growing debt.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:09 PM
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5. Israel attacks Iran = Oil @ $300/barrel
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