Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

-Wilbur Ross sees US PPIP plan as only $125 billion

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU
 
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 04:58 PM
Original message
-Wilbur Ross sees US PPIP plan as only $125 billion

NEW YORK, July 7 (Reuters) - Billionaire investor Wilbur Ross predicted on Tuesday that the government's plan to have private investors buy unwanted bank assets would end up as a fraction of the original $1 trillion size, he told CNBC television in an interview.
Ross, chairman and CEO of WL Ross & Co., said he believed the program would end up being about $100 billion to $125 billion in size, compared with early forecasts for sales of up to $1 trillion in securities.

He expects to commit approximately $1 billion to the government's public-private investment partnership, or PPIP, with the money split between purchases of loans and mortgage-backed securities.

There has been some reluctance from banks to participate because it would force them to sell certain assets at much lower prices than originally valued.

"A lot of this paper is never going to go back to par no matter how long they hold it," Ross said. Because of the leverage provided to investors by the government, investors will be able to pay five to 10 percent closer to par value than without that leverage, Ross said. "As a result of that, whatever gap between the bank's carrying value and the market should close."

The plan makes these assets more attractive, Ross said, saying that the assets "are toxic, but even toxicity makes sense if you can get it at the right price, and with the right leverage."
http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUSN0734479120090707
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. Murky Objectives of the PPIP

It is looking like the Public Private Investment Partnership (PPIP) asset managers will not include a big bank or investment bank, but no one can be sure until the announcement, which was delayed from last week. I’m not convinced that the PPIP will be a boon to asset managers, but as long as the toxic asset program is voluntary it does help the banks. How much asset managers like Angelo Gordon & Co. benefit depends on the competitiveness of the bidding process. It is reportedly starting out at a paltry $20 billion by TARP standards. That is down from as much as $1,000 billion when anounced and $50 billion last week. Unfortunately, sometimes things that start small have a way of getting a lot bigger.


The PPIP seems to have two sometimes conflicting goals:

Restart the securitization market for home loans by creating buyers for residential mortgage backed securities without government guarantees.
Remove volatile toxic mortgages from the balance sheets of the banks.
I think Geithner & Co. are focused primarily on goal one. It is hard to be sure, since they already have the money, they don’t need to explain themselves so much. With respect to goal one it is not entirely clear why investors will be eager for securitized debt when the cheap government leverage stops. If the market for toxic assets is merely illiquid, the cheap financing of the PPIP is not necessary. Even expensive financing in an illiquid market should lead to a pick up in securitization activity.

The second goal of cleaning up banks' balance sheets requires that banks that sell their toxic home loans cannot turn around and buy more toxic home loans. That may require more oversight than regulators can muster. If banks’ balance sheets are less volatile, then my solo and joint research shows they will make better loans going forward, Preventing banks from buying other banks’ toxic waste will oddly hurt goal one. When banks are no longer buyers of toxic debt, the secondary market demand for those securities should fall somewhat.

There is a third goal, which has been posited by some commentators, but no policy makers that I am aware of.

Recapitalize banks by overpaying for trash assets.
My paper “A Binomial Model of Geithner’s Toxic Asset Plan” shows that healthy banks are the banks that will most benefit from “goal” three. They don’t care about losing volatility. Their stock price will get a bump from the fact that the legacy securities are sold for more than their marked at or worth. Incorrigible zombie banks with deeply negative equity will not participate at all even if it means marking up assets. As the “Put Problem for Buying Toxic Assets” and the previous paper explain, near zombies will weigh the overpayment for assets against the lost volatility. The real winners in the later case will be the near zombies’ bondholders. Bondholders like the rising equity value and falling equity volatility. The former paper shows that toxic asset trades can occur, but only by exposing taxpayers to losses that will not show up until several years down the road when the PPIP loans mature.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/147432-murky-objectives-of-the-ppip
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. the taxpayers will lose
and guys like Ross will win, these "assets" only have to perform for a couple of years or less for them to make a profit but as soon as they default ( and they will ) back to the treasury they go! the loans ( leverage ) they will get are non recourse so there is no risk!, Ross and his buddies wont lose a cent!!! everybody say you`re welcome!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. What's so murky about it?
It's a blatant, in-your-face invitation to theft. It's refreshingly honest about how dishonest it is. What part of "corps get the upside profit, taxpayers take the downside risk" is unclear?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 10:01 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC