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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:19 PM
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My morning w/ Kucinich - REPEALING THE PATRIOT ACT
Took the day off work today to go breakfast with Kucinich at Fort Mason in San Francisco. It was a small (maybe 100 people), informal gathering where he spoke passionately with a lot of humor.

As I was running in (late as usual but only a few minutes this time) I chatted with another late person. Turns out it was Medea Benjamin, Green Party bigee and founder of Occupation Watch in Iraq. Swapped business cards because I've been in close contact with her people there and would love to help. Inside, the first person I noticed was Dennis- quiet, not flashy but the presence is there! You see it and feel it! He held (not shook but) held my hand and I better get one of the about 5 photos they took and after a quick intro of who I was, I told him I was his number one long-time fan and supporter. Quick chat about GMOs and slightly longer one about Israel/Palestine (WOW! He really knows the subject and told me what I already know- that someone needs to immediately get involved IMPARTIALLY because that conflict threatens to blow up into a tragedy for the entire world).

About 20 minutes later, when he came to our table I was better prepared and handed him my business card telling him look Dennis, I'm a fabulous Executive Assistant, speak 6 languages, retired Military Intel Foreign Area Specialist, care passionately about peace, justice and politics and would be honored to work with you! With a quick "Come with me" he grabbed my hand and led me across the room to his National Network Coordinator, Dorothy J. Maver and set me up for an IMMEDIATE INTERVIEW TO WORK ON HIS STAFF! That process will start this afternoon and I'm, I don't even know what to think- all I know is that I'm very excited but apprehensive. PLEASE KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED FOR ME!

Then Dennis spoke to the crowd which was really receptive and passionate.

He talked about Universal Health Care, the war in Iraq, withdrawing from NAFTA and WTO to get jobs back in America for Americans.

He spoke passionately about the environment and specifically discussed our immediate concerns in the Bay area where the poorer districts are the hardest hit.


He got several standing ovations but when he announced that upon his return to DC, he will be introducing a Bill to repeal the Patriot Act - EVERYONE stood up and would not stop clapping.

He is also demanding an investigation into the voting machine irregularities. Bev Harris, where are you?!

He also talked about our industrialized prison system and how it needs to be reformed. Also that drug felonies need to be looked at very closely because many of them are undeserved. One of his big issues here is FULLY re-integrating people back into society after they've served their time and not branding them with that Scarlet A so that they can never again vote.

The hypocrisy of our lack of involvement in Liberia was also discussed right before he spoke about how our soldiers were being used and abused for the Bush Administration's enrichment and how our entire expedition there was based on lies and that THEY ALL KNEW IT BEFORE WE WENT. THIS WAS KNOWN! NO ONE HAD ANY BUSINESS SUPPORTING THIS WHICH IS WHY HE OPPOSED AND DENOUNCED IT FROM THE BEGINNING.

He also said he's been fighting GMOS, Agricultural policies & monopolies that exploit workers while enriching agribusiness giants and destroy the environment and will continue that fight for the economic and physical health of the American people. (He already introduced several bills about this recently).

Education came up too and he explained that the Pentagon's budget needs to be cut immediately because wars and conflicts are manufactured to keep them in business. He pointed out that Pentagon spending is about to exceed the military budgets of all the other countries in the world combined and that they don't need more money to develop NEW NUCLEAR weapons like they've been asking but that instead that money needs to de redirected to schools, education, Head-Start, decent teacher pay, bridging the digital divide.

Also the banking industry that sets up in poorer neighborhoods, refuses to loan money for improvement and takes the money elsewhere and/or uses it to help outsiders buy up every dilapidated house in the area, fixing it up to rent at an expensive price and pushing the poorer people out- out to where?!

He also talked about GREENING the Democratic Party and how it was time for a progressive to give them reason to believe that the Democratic Party could once again be what it used to and was meant to be. Nader came up, turns out Nader is a personal friend with whom he worked a lot on Consumerism. This was somewhere in the middle of his talk but I didn't take notes so this is all jumbled up.

The Green Party Head of California spoke after that and said that Kucinich stood for everything the Green Party believes in and spoke glowingly of what Dennis can do for America.

Off the top of my head that's it- sorry I didn't take notes. Nader came up There were then 2 female speakers whose names I don't remember and the Chair of the California Dem Chicano/Latino Caucus, Placido Salazar, spoke briefly.

A few minutes before going to the front to speak Placido invited me to a small 10 person panel to meet with Dennis afterwards and talk about issues affecting People of Color- called up NOIRETBLU immediately to invite her but she couldn't make it This lasted about 1 hr before Dennis left to make an appearance at the garbage collectors' (?) strike because they had asked him for support during their protest and he wanted to be there for them. More photos of with these 10 people and I AM STANDING IN THE FRONT WITH DK'S ARMS OVER MY SHOULDER HOLDING A "DENNIS J. KUCINICH, PRESIDENT" SIGN!!!!!!!! (but will have to get that from Campaign HQs when developed and will post here).

Anyway, I am psyched, psyched PSYCHED, and now determined more than ever to turn as many people on to what this man will do for our country!!!!

Peace!
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:23 PM
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1. I am going to see him tomorrow night.
I am really looking forward to it. I hope I get to shake his hand.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:31 PM
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4. Oh you will I'm sure!
He's very personable and you should have no problems! I hope you do!

Peace and good luck! Let us know how it goes :)
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:27 PM
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2. c'est tres bon!!!
et bon chance!!! (je parle une petit peux.)

gd crashed as i tried to post this there. good luck!!!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:35 PM
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6. Merci!
Though my purpose was more to tell you guys what he said and how he was.

I should have added that he didn't screech or shout so I'm not sure if that characterization is at all founded though a better hair-cut wouldn't hurt since this is America, land of packagint after all :)

I absolutely love his simplicity and directness. He KNOWS what he's talking about! At the end of the breakfast, he took about 20 questions and was able to answer them all withouth skirting the issue, generalizing and throwing out platitudes.

Really impressive. I hope more DUers get the change to hear/meet him.

Et grand, grand merci de tes souhaits!

Peace
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:29 PM
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3. I answered your first thread...
what happened to it? Oh well...in case it's gone, I'll try again.

Now YOU sound like an excited teenager. ;)))))

He does have something special, and he obviously was impressed with you. Wishing you tons of luck, Tinoire. YOU can make ANYTHING happen, of that I am certain.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:46 PM
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8. You are so kind
Edited on Thu Jul-31-03 04:47 PM by Tinoire
Yes I am kind of gushing... It was so exciting for me to be there especially since I've been down in the dumps for the last few weeks. He really invigorated me and now I'm believing again that there is hope, that we may, just may find a way out of this mess.

I'd forgotten to add that he also talked about pulling our troops out of Iraq immediately and asking to UN to help the Iraqis rebuild their country AND manage their resources themselves. We of course, would have to make a significant contribution to help them because after all, we did cause this mess.

It's so refreshing to hear these truths after 3 years of total lies!

You know what's so special about him? He's genuine. And when he talks with you, you know he's really listening because he speaks TO you and answers YOUR question pertinently.

At the after-breakfast session re Issues of Colored People that the Chicano Caucus organized (spur of the moment I think), this was really obvious to everyone. Oh lol, guess what, even if I don't get that job- I'm because of that meeting on a committee to organize "people of Color" events (don't know what else to call it right now) for the Bay Area. My friend, I collected about 10 cards at this thing so I am really psyched about doing what I can to help out- even as a volunteer.

So forgive me for gushing... The main reason I'm gushing is because I realized, as I left the meetings, that I was finally out of my personal dumps and looking forward to enjoying life, optimistic about life, again.

Peace :)

Here's wishing to you hooking up with DK! And also with your main candidate Kerry!

I'm going to make it a point to go see all the candidates and ask them my pointed questions! :) Peace



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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:34 PM
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5. Great story.. Good Luck!
My Wife and I will be meeting him in Santa Ana this Sunday. We are realy looking forward to it.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:48 PM
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9. Oh lucky you!
Had I not been able to attend this breakfast, I would have driven down to Santa Ana.

Good luck and enjoy! Please, please post a thread and let us all know what you thought and how it went.

Peace :)
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:44 AM
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26. Santa Ana 11 am to 5pm
nm
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:36 PM
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7. Thanks for posting this here...I see GD has disappeared again...
This is so great Tinoire!!!!
I think all of us who support Dennis realize that one of these days his campaign is just gonna be out there is such a major way that he won't be denied or ignored any longer.

This guy has something so special on so many levels...I am just blown away...and that he wants to work within the political system....just leaves me speechless...of course not for too long:evilgrin:


Congrats in advance Tinoire!!!!
:bounce:

Peace & :loveya:
DR
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:00 PM
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10. Oh!
No congrats in advance! Please! I shouldn't even have mentioned that since no particulars were discussed and I am so tied to where I live because of my dog, the 3 cats, all the stray cats, and a total lack of funds that I can't even imagine... But thanks because I would be so honored to work with him.

I agree with you about his campaign kicking off. He has workable plans for all the issues affecting us and I can't imagine people not getting excited once they examine them closely. The key will be in getting his message to the disenfranchised and apathetic voters who would care enough to vote for him, to vote for real change.

I'm also very optimistic about the willingness of the individual Greens to work with him. I understand that we can't expect them to sacrifice their party and not run a candidate (though Medea Benjamin thinks they shouldn't) and am totally encouraged by their willingness to come stump for him and say that as individuals, this is their man. The head of the California Green Party frankly admitted that they don't yet know how they're going to handle this one.

I'm with you on how special he is and why. It really gives me hope!

Peace :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:20 PM
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14. Desertrose, you said something that often gets lost.
He has an amazing progressive mind, and yet, he would NEVER consider NOT working within the Democratic Party and the political system itself. He's not out there throwing bombs just to get airtime or make himself known, there is NO ego involved.

He truly wants to make life better for everybody who needs it and is smart enough to figure out how to get there while respectfully battling even the worst that the GOP thugs in the house have thrown at him. He's a seasoned pro, no matter what some believe.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:53 PM
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16. That struck me also
There's absolutely no ego involved. Not even a whiff of an unkind word did he say against any other candidate and I really loved that. He stood on his own merit. He didn't even talk about Bush except to say that it's frightening to think that 'those' in charge of our nuclear weapons don't even know which other countries have nuclear weapons (this came up when we were speaking about the Pentagon which was requesting additional money for NEW nuclear weapons as if the ones they have aren't quite devastating enough!).

I really believe in him and know he's a tough little cookie. His family had no money from what I've read and even spent some time homeless, sleeping in their car (I hope this isn't an urban legend!) and he comes from just normal, everyday American stock. He knows what the problems are from up close and just wants to fix them so we can go on with the "pursuit of happiness" part :)

Love and Peace...

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:27 PM
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18. Yep...you get it...
and I know exactly how he was raised. It's not urban legend, it's just real life for some proud hardworking families who live paycheck to paycheck. Staunch Catholic area, too.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:15 AM
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20. That just makes me like him more!
Thanks for confirming that. Pay-check to pay-check certainly helps you put a little more feeling into that compassion. It's so easy to imagine what it's like to be devastatingly poor but it's one of those things you can't understand until you've lived it. Kind of like fear. The heavy kind of fear that makes a man put a bullet to his head....

Peace & thanks :)
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:10 PM
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11. Dennis rocks my vote
Paul Wellstone and Robert Kennedy all wrapped up into one compact vegan package.

Be a menace for Dennis!

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:37 PM
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12. Sounds like "electable" to me, Tinoire!
Thanks for letting us know how it went. I get my turn Sunday!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:43 PM
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15. Definitely electable! And Definitely NEEDED!
Enjoy your turn and PLEASE write a report for us! Don't make my mistake, take a tape-recorder or at least a note-book because he says so much in such a short time. He goes straight to the heart of the issue and I know that my post only covered about half of what he said!

Peace and enjoy Sunday!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:15 PM
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13. Well put and that's precisely how I feel about him
with a little bit of Ghandi thrown in. He is simply an inspiration!

I LOVED the way he had to leave the second meeting to go meet with and support the protesting/stricking workers!

This is definitely a GOOD man who cares for people...!

Peace

I'm a menace for Dennis!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:17 PM
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17. WOW!!! It's great to hear all this from you!

Re: working on Dennis's staff -- In boca a lupa, cara! (Hope Italian is one of the six you speak!) (Yeah, it's an idiom!)

It all makes me want to

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:18 AM
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21. Un grazie sincero !
Ok, I had to google that one! I think the only Italian I know is Caro amore mio. Thought I'd tuck that one in when I was younger in case it ever came in handy.

Thanks you wonderful personal friend!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:31 PM
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19. Dennis will be recorded as the greatest president in history
Thank goodness I have the opportunity to support a real hero.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:23 AM
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22. Genius- I feel the same way!
Like DK is a real American hero! I'm really thrilled that he's in the race. Awake again and happy for America!

Peace
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 09:43 AM
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23. Then perhaps he should stay in Congress
If he wants to repeal the Patriot Act, perhaps he should stay in Congress and work towards that goal. I am sure that an influential and effective legislator like him will be able to get the job done.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:02 AM
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24. Don't worry, he's in Congress now doing this and has already done so many
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 10:06 AM by Tinoire
great things from there. He has enough time to take care of this and continue his campaign to the Presidency. One doesn't rule out the other. What we need is for him to go on to a greater office where he can accomplish even greater things now!

This will be just one more thing to add to his already impressive track record.

No reason for Dennis to step aside simply because he's been effective. That would be silly :)
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:40 AM
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25. What track record?
What has he accomplished in his six years in Congress?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 01:02 PM
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27. Aw C'Mon Freddie
I know you've seen all the threads! You're just pulling my leg.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 01:13 PM
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29. I'm not saying that DK hasn't put forward a lot of innovative ideas
What I'm trying to get at is that although he seems to be a very provacative idea man, he may not be the most able person at implementing those ideas. He has already served three full terms in Congress, but he really hasn't made any serious accomplishments there.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 05:04 PM
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30. I will start a brand new thread on Dennis' s Accomplishments
So you can see and judge for yourself. He has a most impressive record on the issues I care about. Maybe they're not your issues and that's ok but they are great accomplishments nonetheless.

What are your issues anyway?

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 09:50 PM
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32. So... I just took 2 hours of my life and answered you here
and formatted for easier reference.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=10913&mesg_id=10913

There you can find all of Kucinich's accomplisments during those three terms. I hope it will help.
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Thomas Jefferson Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 01:10 PM
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28. This is what I like about Dennis: He is the people's candidate
I think this is part of the reason people see him as a new RFK.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 06:39 PM
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31. Yes, he is the people's candidate.
And the more people hear about him, the more people gravitate his way. He is our hope for America.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 04:42 PM
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33. That's exactly who he is...
and always has been. This is not artifice from him dredged up for a campaign. This is the real deal. I trust someone like Kucinich with over 30 years of dependable populism over someone who just recently bcame a populist 7 months ago.
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