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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:21 PM
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Dean picks up endorsement of former Sen Paul Simon (IL)
That is a nice one to have. Paul has a lot of respect in Illinois.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:23 PM
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1. Yeah
I love Simon. Great endorsement.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:25 PM
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2. that's huge
Dean also got Pat Quinn, which is big for Dean and a big loss for Kucinich.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:27 PM
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3. Paul should have been President
If he'd gotten the nomination in '88 and won, we wouldn't have the Bush Evil Empire to contend with today. Hats off to a great American!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:28 PM
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4. I supported him in 88
but Gephardt ran a slash and burn campaign which sadly worked.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:32 PM
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5. Holy!!
I can't believe Paul Simon allowed himself to be duped by Dean. I guess Simon is watching too much Media and drinking too much Kool-Aid.
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mumishka Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:34 PM
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6. ...but Dean can't win

I understand Dean's anger. I was in Florida during the recount. I lived in Europe for years and think no nation, no matter how powerful should act alone ----only the bully in the playground does that.

But fellow Democrats wake up to the reality that a Democrat candidate will only win if moderate/independents vote for that candidate. And while I personally have no problem with gay marriage, 60% of the country does. And that issue is tied around Dean's neck like an 100 pound anchor with a 3 foot chain.

The Mass court have just hung Dean and if we want to get Bush out of the White House we better settle on another candidate

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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:37 PM
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7. So what do you suggest, go against our guts and vote for ... who?
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:04 PM
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10. wrong
Dean will say once and for all marriage is sacred in many churches whereas civil unions are the business of the state, and it's immoral and discriminatory not to allow civil unions. And if couples wish to make their union sacred in the church of their choice, the state has no business in that private affair. That's it. Out. It's not an anchor, it's one of the key to the white house.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:59 AM
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22. it is tiring to keep hearing that he can't win
who is beating Bush in the polls? at this point not a single one of our candidates not even Clark in recent polls. They are all close--even Dean but as time goes on and the country begins to focus they will all close the gap. The numbers at this point to look at are the unnamed dem vs. Bush which often Bush comes out on losing end that indicates that he is vulnerable. I have no doubt that the Democratic nominee and if Dean is he, can beat Bush.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:23 AM
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23. Isn't there some saying about if you can defeat your opponents
in their mind, you don't have to worry about defeating them on the battlefield?

Sounds like the GOP has wrapped up the election for some here. I hope their a very small minority, but reading threads here at DU makes me wonder.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:34 AM
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24. Umm, DemocratIC candidate
I'm sure that was an inadvertent slip on your part, but please be aware that the repubs use the noun form as an adjective. democrats do not.

Also, please tell me how the civil unions issue will hurt Dean more than the others- who, btw, *also* support civil unions. Every single Dem candidate supports civil unions, just so you know. And Kucinich supports gay marriage, and Kerry voted against the DOMA. So please explain to me why will this issue ONLY supposedly affects Dean?

I'm very curious on this, and I've asked this question of Dean critics on this issue several times. Alas, no response as of yet from any of them.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 06:57 PM
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8. HUGE endorsement!
Paul is IMMENSELY respected in IL, and I can't imagine a more important endorsement, except for Daley's or Blagoevic's. :thumbsup:
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:03 PM
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9. Excellent endorsement!
:toast: :bounce: :thumbsup:
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:12 PM
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11. Are you sure?
Politics1.com says that he already endorsed Carol Moseley Braun. Could you provide a link?

http://www.politics1.com/braun.htm
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:13 PM
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12. I rather doubt he's endorsed CMB.
:shrug:
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:27 PM
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18. Democracy Now reported Simon was backing her
during the formation of her exploratory committee. link

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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:21 PM
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16. Saw it on Chicago TV news this afternoon
I think it was ABC channel 7. They had a nice segment on Dean's visit to Chicago today. Talked about Dean picking up three endorsement, Lt Govenor Quinn, Rep Jesse Jackson Jr and Paul Simon. Interviewed Simon.

I will try to find a link...
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:17 PM
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13. I can't find any news sources announcing this
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:18 PM
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14. Hmm...maybe he meant Art Garfunkel?
I didn't read this on the Blog either. Where did it come from?
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:19 PM
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15. Confusion with Pat Quinn maybe?
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:24 PM
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17. I bet that's it.
Lt. Governor, Former Governor...not too far off. :)

Well maybe Paul Simon will see all this positive feedback and endorse him anyway.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:23 PM
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19. CBS channel 2 Chicago confirms Simon endorsement of Dean
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 11:24 PM by xray s
This could mean CMB is dropping out of the race.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 02:57 AM
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20. Here's some press on this
Former Senator endorses Dean for nomination

Former U.S. Sen. Paul Simon, an Illinois Democrat, endorsed former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean on Thursday for the 2004 presidential nomination.

"Howard Dean strikes me as the kind of president who will tell us the truth and not just pander to us," said Simon, the author of a new book, "Our Culture of Pandering."

http://desmoinesregister.com/news/stories/c4789004/2293...

(The Simon part is about halfway through the article)
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:56 AM
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21. now this is a great endorsement
It does pack a wallop in Illinois. He has two great ex-liberal senators behind him: Paul Simon of Illinois and Howard Metzenbaum of Ohio.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:37 AM
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25. There it is!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0312...

DES MOINES -- Speaking by telephone from his hospital bed in Springfield, Ill., where he awaits open-heart surgery, former Sen. Paul Simon of Illinois endorsed Howard Dean's presidential campaign Thursday.

The development could be seen as a subtle slap toward at least two other Democratic presidential hopefuls.


Anticipating that perception, Simon said his former Senate colleague, Carol Moseley Braun, hadn't asked for his endorsement.

"She is contributing to the nation in speaking out on issues," he said of her campaign.

Simon also said his endorsement of Dean shouldn't be construed as a political strike at Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri, who beat Simon in Iowa in 1988. Gephardt and Dean are locked in a fierce battle for first place in Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses Jan. 19.


==

Also reminds me why I dislike Gephardt. Funny how some wounds don't heal.
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