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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:52 AM
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What if Dean loses?
What will happen to all of Dean's grassroot people if he doesn't win? Will he tell his army of followers to support Kerry, Sharpton, or whoever? Or will he simply fade into the distance, and his followers will be scattered on the wind? I hope he hands off his grassroots movement if he loses.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:53 AM
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1. Funny I asked this question about Kucinich
Me, I will suport whoever the party puts
forwards... whoever wins teh nomnination... worst
case scenario, will hold my nose and vote for
Lieberman.

Anbybody but BUSH.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:26 AM
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2. That's what I was thinking when I read this
I would hate to vote for Lieberman or Kerry Gephardt or Graham due to their unending devotion to the Republican Party and their War and their Homeland insecurity....but given the choice I would vote for them....ANYONE BUT BUSH....
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:37 AM
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3. if he loses we will find another candidate
because Dean supporters are as opposed to another four years of Bush as supporters of any other candidate. I also suppose ultimately Dean will endorse someone else for the nomination if he gets out of the race--but that doesn't mean that his "grassroots movement" will necessarily support the same person as Dean may endorse.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:24 AM
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4. Absolutely. We'll find another Dem and help him (or her) beat Bush
.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:44 AM
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5. As a strong Dean supporter...
I view all other Dem pres contenders as a way distant second. None of them have resonated with me the way Dean has.

But with that said, the winner of my party's nomination gets my vote. Just because I can't have everything I want all at once, doesn't mean I will pack up and go home.

I just pray it isn't Losermann or Kerry, because I hate both of those fuckers! It would be a painful emotional trial to vote for them. I would definetly hop right into the shower after pulling the lever.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 09:05 AM
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6. I don't think that he can "hand off" his grassroots movement
Edited on Sun Jul-20-03 09:08 AM by orangepeel68
Dean is a good Democrat and he will vigorously support the nominee if he loses the primary.

But many of his supporters support HIM, not necessarily the Democratic party. The vast majority of people at the meetups were previously politically disaffected or are new to the process. They'll work hard for him, but not necessarily for someone else.

They'll vote for the nominee, most likely, but nobody else should count on tapping into his "organization" for a national grassroots canvassing effort.

(I'm excepting myself from this statement because I'm involved in the party, but most of the meetup supporters aren't).
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 09:11 AM
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7. Perhaps You Should Encourage Them To Participate In The Process
It would sort of be your personal responsibility, don't ya think? I would feel it would be mine to GOTV for people at the Kerry meetups and beyond. I will surely continue to try to get more people to the polls any way I can.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 09:17 AM
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8. absolutely, and I do encourage them
but these are grown up, independent people. They are not Dean's employees or his robots. They decided to come to Dean meetups because they support HIM, personally, and they will work very hard to get him elected.

If any other candidate thinks that they will just be able to transfer that excitment and support to themselves, they are incorrect.

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prez_sux Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 07:34 PM
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9. Dean is a pretty bright guy
don't underestimate him. he'll throw in his support if he doesn't get it.
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copithorne Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 07:58 PM
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10. Dean supporter
I'll definitely vote for the Democrat, with pleasure.

But my enthusiasm and effort will be diminished for any candidate who supported this infernal war.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 08:25 PM
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11. exactly.
the most important question is not "will Dean supporters vote for the nominee?" It is "can the grassroots army that is arising in support of Dean be mobilized to work their asses off for any other candidate the way they would for him?"

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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:38 PM
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13. YES!!!
That was the real question I was trying to ask. Thank you Orangepeel!
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 11:43 PM
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14. Same here....
Senate/Congress Dems didn't give a shit about me, or the "Focus Group" known as MeetUp until recently. Now when Kerry talks about building the "largest grassroots organization," I just have to laugh!
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 10:53 PM
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12. If Dean loses...
we're all going to a big party at Nic_J's house! :)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 03:37 PM
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15. Well Dean better lose!
Nicholas_J (2817 posts)
May-15-03, 09:08 PM (ET)
Reply to post #30
32. He will lose to gephardt in Iowa
And to Kerry in New Hampshire.
Guaranteed
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 07:34 PM
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16. Rummy don't be sooooooooo cruel.
Dean '04
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 12:26 PM
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18. If you thought that was cruel, sorry.
I see it as humor but I've been wrong before. I understand N_J's support for Kerry but his vituperative hate for Dean is completely out of proportion with reality. I'll think happy thoughts, for you.

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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 08:29 AM
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17. Dean's Future
I think that Dean will hand off his grassroots organization to another candidate, and will be a key speaker at the convention if he loses. I don't see him being selected as a vice presidential candidate (that'll be Clark, Graham, or Landrieu), but I can picture him running for the Jeffords seat if he retires in 2006.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 12:29 PM
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19. Got some lottery numbers for me?
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 08:38 PM
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20. Jeffords seat
That doesn't sound like a bad place for Dean. Then he could come back in 2012 after Kerry/Graham have brought us peace and prosperity for 8 years, and fixed all the things George What WMD's Bush has broken.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:35 AM
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21. get thee to a convent
Sorry,
Dean isn't going away!

Hallelujia!
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:25 PM
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22. Only time Lutherans go to convents is to find a wife...
I have no problem with Dean winning, but if he doesn't I'd love to see him continue on in politics. That's all I was saying.
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