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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:27 PM
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Clark's Religion?
Anyone know what Clark's religion is? I stuck my nose up in the air and he smelled Anglican, but he's from the South so I'm guessing it was actually the smell of a Methodist. Help, my Religion sniffer is out of wack. So, what religion in Clark?
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:27 PM
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1. Maybe he doesn't have one - maybe he doesn't go to church
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:27 PM
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2. I think hes Catholic
but was born Jewish, raised Baptist, and converted to Catholicism which would make him Catholic number three in the race after Kucinich and Kerry.
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:29 PM
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3. hmmm...
Okay, no wonder my sniffer was off...
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:35 PM
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11. Yes, he's Catholic
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 03:36 PM by jumptheshadow
His dad was Jewish but died when Clark was young. He learned about his Jewish background when he was in his 20's and subsequently contacted his Jewish relatives. Clark is a convert to Catholicism and seems to have been influenced by the Jesuits. He took a sabbatical with them, researching the just causes of war.

His wife, the former Gertrude Kingston, is from an Irish family in Brooklyn.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:18 PM
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15. CMB is Catholic too
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:30 PM
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4. I hope no one knows the answer.
What difference would it make anyway?
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:33 PM
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7. Eh, true enough
I had saw a picture of him in purple vestiments and was curious as to his religion.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:13 PM
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19. He was at Seton Hall for commencement
if it's the picture in my sig banner you're talking about.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:31 PM
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5. Well it's like this. Born Jewish. Converted to Baptist...
Then converted to Catholicism (sp?) when he married.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:32 PM
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6. ok yeah you would know better than I
because youre a Clark supporter I though so. Interesting mix. ;) if becomes buddhist or muslim heh. On a serious note thats interesting.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:33 PM
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8. who cares?
not trying to flame you, but IMO it's not an issue. :-)
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:34 PM
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10. see #7 (NT)
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:34 PM
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9. jewish *NT*
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:36 PM
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12. Every time I take a look I am amazed...
...how many politcal "bases" Clark covers.

Pinch me, I am dreaming! :)
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:00 PM
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13. Anglican was a great guess...
He does "smell" Anglican-but Catholic is the next closest thing
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:08 PM
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14. Clark: it doesn't matter. He got me with this:
"We live in a liberal democracy. That's what we created in this
country. It's in our constitution! We should be very clear on this...
this country was founded on the principles of the enlightenment. It was
the idea that people could talk, have reasonable dialogue and discuss
the issues. It wasn't founded on the idea that someone would get struck
by a divine inspiration and know everything, right from wrong. People
who founded this country had religion, they had strong beliefs, but they
believed in reason, and dialogue, and civil discourse. We can't lose
that in this country. We've got to get it back."
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:19 PM
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16. This is a WONDERFUL quote .....
And it expresses PRECISELY my own view of liberal democracy .... An extension of Enlightenment values ....

DAMN this fella is good .....
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:33 PM
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17. I read in a magazine...
that he attends a Presbyterian church now.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:23 PM
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20. Don't know
His bio says Catholic but he is pro-choice. Although he does travel to colleges with the Jesuits. An interesting story: the Pope had doubts about Kosovo's "Just War" status, so Solana, an ex-jesuit and NATO head, and Clark drafted a letter using perfect Jesuit logic. The Pope said "okay."

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:29 PM
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22. I am Catholic and pro choice as is Kerry
and Kucinich now and many untold Catholic politicans.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:45 PM
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18. I'll Never Vote For A Dirty Catholic Like Al Smith
Sorry, little history joke there. Another sad chapter in the American democratic experiment.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:28 PM
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21. lol
I know what you mean. Your guy and my guy are Catholics you know and I am Catholic myself. I cant believe theres only been one non protestant president and that was only 45 years ago about and even he just pulled out a victory.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 10:12 PM
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24. You think that's bad?
I'm waiting for the first non-Christian president. Maybe I'll do that.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 07:43 AM
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29. Vote for Lieberman.
I am also waiting for the first non-christian President. But I somehow think we are talking about something different. I am waiting for the first Presidential candidate brave enough to leave religion out of things.

That has got to be the number one creepy thing that Bush does, as far as I am concerned. With today's international political climate, every time he stands up and says things about our 'Christian Nation' or that god has faxed him some instructions, I cringe.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 08:37 PM
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23. Jeez
It'll be another year before you figure out whether he has religion or not.

He just decided to tell everybody he was a Democrat last week.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 01:45 AM
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25. LOL!!
I like Clark very much...but that remark was FUNNY!!
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 02:30 AM
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26. He was a Baptist...
now he's Catholic.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 03:06 AM
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27. He was a Southern Baptist...
converted to Catholicism after he got married. He's half Jewish---his father died when he was very young.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 07:41 AM
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28. Curious...
Would it matter?
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boilertommy Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:15 AM
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30. Curious
Sure it matters. Since I found out he's Catholic I like him better already.

South Side
Irish
Catholic
Democrat
White Sox fan
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