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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:04 PM
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Democrats and the war
From my observations at Du and other places, it appears that there are a substantial number of Democrats who will not support any candidate who voted for the war. The facts that **** had the propaganda machine turned up to full volume bringing public approval for the war to about 70% at the time of the vote, put tremendous polical pressure on them, and the justifications given for the war were greatly mistated (they lied) adding to the possibility that they could have been mislead along whith the general public, dosn't deter them.
Now for the next question. What if there are a substantial number of moderate Democrats and sing voters who will not support a candidate who is against the war Especially someone as bald faced about it as Dean. Since most of the repubs will be united behind ***, it is imperative that the Democrats are united and then win the majarity of the sing votes in the next election. I don't know the answere to this question ; I'm sure the parties have done research on it.
If this is the case then the Democrats will need a candidate that can transend beyond the war issue and unite the Democrats. The candidate who could do this is Wesley Clark. Clark , a former four star general, and head of NATO, has the national securaty credentails that would enable him to question the policies of the **** admistration without fear from the electorate that he might weaken national securaty. Listening to Clark speak , one would be impressed by the fact that he comes across as very intelgent and deep thinker.
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:10 PM
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1. Graham has the credentials to bridge this gap
Graham voted against the war, because he considered it a DANGEROUS DIVERSION from the real threats of terrorism. The increasing terrorism in Iraq and other places is proving him correct.

In addition, he has the experience of 2 terms as governor of the 4th largest state, and 3 terms as senator. He carries Florida.

He's by far the best of the bunch to BEAT BUSH.

You are correct, there are a lot more people out there in the "real world" than on DU who will not accept any candidate who appears to be hesitant on security. Clark has the military credentials, but he does not have the governing credentials. And he isn't a popular senator from Florida.

It's really time to get over this blind spot about Graham.

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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:48 PM
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4. I like Bob Graham ,but
he is not getting any where. Listening to him talk is like watching paint dry.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:58 PM
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2. Senator Bob
Definately the best candidate, and certainly wouldn't let smirk get the best of him in a debate. Not a hothead like Dean. Just firm and direct.
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wardunn28 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:18 PM
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3. What about a Dean/Clark ticket?
sound ideal to me
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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:56 PM
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5. Past elections show
that the VP doesn't make that much difference nationally. People vote on the top of the ticket. If Dean scares people on his war stance they're not going to vote for him regardless who the VP is.
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